Re: [9fans] Plan 9 in Brazil

["Iruatã Souza" <iru.muzgo@gmail.com>]

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Le sam. 29 août 2020 à 23:21, Lucas Francesco <lucas.francesco93@gmail.com>
a écrit :

> >As another historical note, for a number of years (2006 to 2009 iirc)
> Plan 9 reached the peak of 3 regular users in Brazil. Others came and went,
> but those 3 are responsible for at least abaco, the initial python port,
> and the initial work into what is now the 9front bootloader.
>
> Also another note: from what I know fgb ( as you mention Abaco and he
> is the creator) Is argentinian, and Argentina isn't Brazillian
> territory, yet. I know "responsible" can have a different
> connotation/implication than creator, so i'd love to hear some
> clarification if there's a backstory though.
>

Fgb is indeed Argentinian, but speaks perfect Portuguese and lived for a
number of years in Brazil. Also, at least for a part of the timespan I
mentioned he lived in Brazil (we even lived in the same street for a
month!) That's why I considered him as one of the regular users in Brazil.

I have no idea about the current 9front bootloader, and would love to
> hear notes about who did it, thanks to bringing it to light.
>

I am the one who did the early work on it. The ideas have been presented in
http://4e.iwp9.org/papers/9null.pdf.


Lucas
>
> Em sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 às 16:55, Iruatã Souza
> <iru.muzgo@gmail.com> escreveu:
> >
> > Le sam. 29 août 2020 à 19:26, Leonardo <leonardohcoelho@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> >>
> >> Cool!
> >>
> >> I want to make a Plan 9 distro aimed at brazilians: I'm at the
> beginning of this journey. My plan is to translate all the documentation
> (articles and man pages), try to make the system more user friendly (not
> for hackers but for common people) and also work in ordinary software like
> a modern browser, a word processor, spreadsheet software, a kind of
> powerpoint etc.
> >>
> >
> > As another historical note, for a number of years (2006 to 2009 iirc)
> Plan 9 reached the peak of 3 regular users in Brazil. Others came and went,
> but those 3 are responsible for at least abaco, the initial python port,
> and the initial work into what is now the 9front bootloader.
> >
> > So, Leonardo, welcome aboard :)
> >
> > Besides translation, what are the Brazilian-specific needs you are
> trying to address?
> > I highly recommend you search the list for other projects similar to
> yours.
> >
> > Anyway, I wish you the best of luck in the journey!
> >
> > iru
> >
> >>
> >> I am studying Plan 9 and I am totally in love with it: read files,
> write to files and again: read files, write to files. And what else do you
> need to do? Little or nothing: things are really simple. The NSA invented
> SELinux (mandatory access control) because it saw that, from a security
> point of view, the idea of discretionary access control did not provide
> much. Okay, it's an idea and it works. But Plan 9, before, had introduced
> the idea of namespace which is, by the way, a much simpler and smarter
> idea: each process can have its own restricted view of the universe of
> files. I really don't understand why Plan 9 has not been adopted. Legacy
> base?
> >
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