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From: "Iruatã Souza" <iru.muzgo@gmail.com>
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 in Brazil
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 21:40:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABJnqBTQYHz7ABmi9+WN87to0bGOS-owVtsPrbLxJ0pWqivRkQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15988064130.c4eC0a15b.89314@composer.9fans.topicbox.com>

On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 6:54 PM Leonardo <leonardohcoelho@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Saturday, 29 August 2020, at 4:55 PM, Iruatã Souza wrote:
>
> As another historical note, for a number of years (2006 to 2009 iirc) Plan 9 reached the peak of 3 regular users in Brazil. Others came and went, but those 3 are responsible for at least abaco, the initial python port, and the initial work into what is now the 9front bootloader.
>
> So, Leonardo, welcome aboard :)
>
> Besides translation, what are the Brazilian-specific needs you are trying to address?
> I highly recommend you search the list for other projects similar to yours.
>
> Anyway, I wish you the best of luck in the journey!
>
>
> Hi, Iru. Thank you for welcome and congragulations on your work.
>
> Regarding the few regular users, I think this is not only because Plan 9 is considered a research system but also because it looks like a system for fans or enthusiast or even experts (although it's a system where the simplicity of conceptions is the essence).
>

Wouldn't that be true for any software that somehow diverges from the
conventional/mainstream practices?

>
> The guys (and girls!) at 9front do an admirable job of fixing bugs in the kernel, compilers and key libraries and that's priceless: it's a very technical and time-consuming job. We should be grateful for the work they do. And it helps a lot: they do a job that nobody usually wants to do. So, with this support that they give to the community, it is possible to think about developing other things. You're a contributor, I saw your name there. Thank you!
>
> Beside translation I'd like to make the system more user friendly (again: for common people not for experts): and this is the most important thing. In fact, I'd like to make Plan 9 a usable system for personal purposes, so that I can use it and, of course, share what I can do.
>

User-friendliness is difficult to establish precisely. On the other
hand, personal needs don't require any precise definition. In fact, as
far as I understand, most of the 9front contributions address direct
and concrete needs, usually related to the person writing the code.

If I may offer advice, assuming you won't be receiving any external
incentive (e.g. money) to conduct your project, writing
software/documentation to meet your own needs seems a more productive
start. Then, in doing that, you'll probably stumble upon more general
problems the solutions of which may eventually help others.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-30 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-02  8:52 Iruatã Souza
2020-05-02 16:31 ` [9fans] " Robert Sherwood
2020-08-29 17:25   ` Leonardo
2020-08-29 17:43     ` Wes Kussmaul
2020-08-29 18:36       ` Leonardo
2020-08-29 19:51         ` Wes Kussmaul
2020-08-29 21:10       ` Kurt H Maier
2020-08-29 19:54     ` Iruatã Souza
2020-08-29 21:03       ` Lucas Francesco
2020-08-29 22:09         ` Iruatã Souza
2020-08-31  2:52         ` Leonardo
2020-08-29 21:19       ` Lucas Francesco
2020-08-29 22:04         ` Iruatã Souza
2020-08-30 16:53       ` Leonardo
2020-08-30 19:40         ` Iruatã Souza [this message]
2020-08-31  1:29           ` Leonardo
2020-08-31  1:32             ` Kurt H Maier
2020-08-31  2:03               ` Leonardo
2020-08-29 21:30     ` ori
2020-09-01 11:52       ` Ethan Gardener
2020-09-01 12:10         ` hiro
2020-09-01 12:19           ` Ethan Gardener

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