From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20131219190715.Horde.XO9OJVgxxL1MHPuJzbAgHw1@ssl.eumx.net> References: <3e1e9e6fbfa856a01013a2f51b8d244f@coraid.com> <34270f8ddb3fc06e71d4db496a891dd4@brasstown.quanstro.net> <20131219190715.Horde.XO9OJVgxxL1MHPuJzbAgHw1@ssl.eumx.net> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:20:17 -0600 Message-ID: From: Blake McBride To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba1efbf44070cc04ede80d9e Subject: Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue Topicbox-Message-UUID: a23eaa48-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --90e6ba1efbf44070cc04ede80d9e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > Quoting Blake McBride : > > What I am beginning to understand from comments like this is that there is >> a "club Plan-9". Everything ever done by the originators of "club >> Plan-9" >> is correct, period. No mater what exceptions, special cases, or good new >> ideas occur, they are wrong and we will find some way of rationalizing >> "club Plan-9". Anyone can join "club Plan-9" if you buy into that >> assumption. The main purpose of Plan-9 forks (with some exceptions) is >> to >> port to new hardware. Messing with the premise of "club Plan-9" is >> significantly frowned upon and attacked. >> >> Just a newbie's (with 35 years experience) perception. >> > > What I am beginning to understand from comments like this is that there is > a "club entitlement." Everything ever done by the members of "club > entitlement" > is correct, period. No matter what preconceptions, bad habits, or > horrible > misfeatures exist, they are correct and we will find some way of > implementing > "club entitlement." Anyone can join "club entitlement" if you assume you > cannot be wrong. The main purpose of operating systems (with no > exceptions) is to > port gnu software. Messing with the premise of "club entitlement" is > significantly whined about on tumblr. > > Just a newbie's (with six hundred years experience) perception. > > Given the number of times I have been enlightened by this group and shown to be clearly wrong, I suppose I am not a member of "club entitlement". When I make a query, I am looking for examples of why it is done the way it is. I have provided examples of why the way it works is a problem. Members of "club Plan-9" insist that that is just the way it works, as opposed to here is a counterexample why the way it works is better. There is a difference between valid arguments and club allegiance. Blake --90e6ba1efbf44070cc04ede80d9e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= hu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net> wrot= e:
Quoting Blake McBride <blake@mcbride.name>:

What I am beginning to understand from comments like this is that there is<= br> a "club Plan-9". =A0Everything ever done by the orig= inators of "club Plan-9"
is correct, period. =A0No mater what exceptions, special cases= , or good new
ideas occur, they are wrong and we will find some way of ratio= nalizing
"club Plan-9". =A0Anyone can join "club Plan-9&= quot; if you buy into that
assumption. =A0The main purpose of Plan-9 forks (with some exc= eptions) is to
port to new hardware. =A0Messing with the premise of "clu= b Plan-9" is
significantly frowned upon and attacked.

Just a newbie's (with 35 years experience) perception.

What I am beginning to understand from comments like this is that there is<= br>
a "club entitlement." =A0Everything ever done by the= members of "club entitlement"
is correct, period. =A0No matter what preconceptions, bad habi= ts, or horrible
misfeatures exist, they are correct and we will find some way = of implementing
"club entitlement." =A0Anyone can join "club en= titlement" if you assume you
cannot be wrong. =A0The main purpose of operating systems (wit= h no exceptions) is to
port gnu software. =A0Messing with the premise of "club e= ntitlement" is
significantly whined about on tumblr.

Just a newbie's (with six hundred years experience) perception.


Given the number of time= s I have been enlightened by this group and shown to be clearly wrong, I su= ppose I am not a member of "club entitlement". =A0When I make a q= uery, I am looking for examples of why it is done the way it is. =A0I have = provided examples of why the way it works is a problem. =A0Members of "= ;club Plan-9" insist that that is just the way it works, as opposed to= here is a counterexample why the way it works is better. =A0There is a dif= ference between=A0valid arguments=A0and club allegiance.

Blake

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