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From: Blake McBride <blake@mcbride.name>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 14:48:01 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABwHSOvX+f3FJW6a=uTrZxX1v70gKDFPXF1j9TCXhD2huHDseg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk2O6oeYRcqxhz8esmiucU3h8xn6N=WgBaE4Akfr_U=mZYcBQ@mail.gmail.com>

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Thanks for the input.  I am making an increased effort to search before
asking.  I intuitively sense that Plan 9 has something significant to offer
based on the little I know.  The actual mechanics have been a challenge for
me.  Constructive feedback is deeply appreciated.


On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Rubén Berenguel <ruben@mostlymaths.net>wrote:

> I somewhat agree that some of the answers you are getting have somewhat
> been (sometimes, not all, and not constantly) been insulting. But a year or
> so ago I was also a Plan9 newbie, and I just read the manuals when I didn't
> know how to do something. I followed some long-ago-read advice of first
> smashing my head against the keyboard before asking the "online guru." And
> by no means I'm an expert in systems programming, other *nixes or anything
> beside a small branch of mathematics (and this is fading, since I'm no
> longer actively researching) and a lot of stuff used in SEO and related
> areas by constant daily use at work.
>
>  I have probably read acme(1) and acme(4) more than 70 times in the past
> year, and probably double that for plumb and plumber (in all of their
> sections.) And there are still a lot of things I don't understand when
> interacting with them, just the other day dove into acme's source to answer
> a question in #plan9 (about what the Abort command does.)
>
> Ruben
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Blake McBride <blake@mcbride.name> wrote:
>
>> Documentation is always clear to people who already know the material but
>> use the documentation as a reminder.  It is difficult for a newbie to
>> differentiate out-of-date material, branch specific material, and valid
>> documentation.  I am providing feedback from a newbie's perspective.  You
>> can either take advantage of some of the feedback to make it easier for a
>> newbie (that cannot reason) thus increasing the number of users, or you can
>> insult them until they leave.  I apologize for not being as smart as you.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Quoting Blake McBride <blake@mcbride.name>:
>>>
>>>  Or perhaps:
>>>>
>>>> echo newuser USER-NAME  >>/srv/cwfs.cmd
>>>>
>>>> replace USER-NAME with the new user's name.  If most commands are in
>>>> lowercase, it might make sense to use uppercase names as things that
>>>> need
>>>> to be specified.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or perhaps we use the documentation as a way to weed out people who
>>> cannot
>>> reason.
>>>
>>> khm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-23 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-23  2:37 Blake McBride
2013-12-23  5:19 ` Sergey Zhilkin
2013-12-23  6:15   ` Matthew Veety
2013-12-23 13:34     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 13:46       ` Richard Miller
2013-12-23 13:55         ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 14:36   ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 15:10   ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 15:32     ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-23 17:13       ` sl
2013-12-23 18:00       ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 18:03         ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 18:28           ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-23 20:03             ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 20:18               ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 20:23               ` Rubén Berenguel
2013-12-23 20:48                 ` Blake McBride [this message]
2013-12-23 21:20                   ` Steve Simon
2013-12-23 20:51               ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-23 21:45                 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 22:00                   ` Matthew Veety
2013-12-23 22:07                   ` sl
2013-12-23 22:45                     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 23:47                       ` sl
2013-12-23 23:54                       ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-24 12:06                         ` Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
2013-12-24 12:24                           ` lucio
2013-12-24 17:47                             ` Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
2013-12-25  5:30                               ` lucio
2013-12-25  5:58                         ` Federico G. Benavento
2013-12-24  0:16                   ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-24  0:57                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-12-24  2:49                       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-24  3:03                         ` Bruce Ellis
2013-12-23 19:18           ` Richard Miller
2013-12-23 19:30             ` cinap_lenrek
2013-12-23 19:37               ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 20:29                 ` cinap_lenrek
2013-12-23 15:42     ` cinap_lenrek
2013-12-23  9:38 ` Richard Miller

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