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Mon, 17 Jan 2022 15:36:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <16424615390.0F13B68C3.21800@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> <16424622620.b9EedC5.684450@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> In-Reply-To: <16424622620.b9EedC5.684450@composer.9fans.topicbox.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Sigrid_Solveig_Hafl=C3=ADnud=C3=B3ttir?= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 00:36:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] Despite being called a fork, is 9front similar to how Linux distros work? To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 4f9aea0e-77ee-11ec-8612-956af75b8889 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UMzk1MTU2ZDRmMmIwMGNkZS1NMTJmYzQxMWIzY2QxYTBkNDYyYWEz?= =?UTF-8?B?NDBmPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M12fc411b3cd1a0d462aa340f:1:-Ry_4SfIwfnDsS4LjQ9dXOtxO9AbAiixtRX9j1_259U On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 12:31 AM Matt wrote: > > But that's why 9front was forked, right? They say it on their FAQ. Even t= hough Plan 9 isn't being developed anymore, doesn't the fork cause worry th= at one day they become too different, especially since the community is rat= her centered around Plan 9 rather than 9front? Or is the community actively= trying to make 9front be accepted as the official continuation of Plan 9? I'm afraid you got it wrong. Community is mostly centered around 9front. One of the reasons is that it actually works and is still being developed and used by many. Plan 9 is dead, 9front lives on. There is also software developed outside of 9front git repo, by people who use 9front: http://only9fans.com Whether some "secret community" decides to "accept" (or not) 9front as "official" doesn't matter. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T395156d4f2b00cde-M12fc4= 11b3cd1a0d462aa340f Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription