9fans - fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Siarhei Zirukin <ftrvxmtrx@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] make passive aggressive gcc
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:56:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADuwikVv5wRY+5iKjujud-JvW5tF_-1o8npx_u51G48mzSkeug@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150615144155.7bbe6219@lahti.ethan.home>

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis
<eekee57@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 09:21:56 +0100
> Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you're using gcc 4.8.2 to compile ... anything, really ... but certainly
>> Plan 9 or Inferno components,
>> and those use for loops with arrays, be sure to include the compilation
>> options
>> -fno-strict-aliasing\
>> -fno-aggressive-loop-optimizations\
>> and it will save you some time and effort.
>> It will save compilation time (not that you'll notice with that sluggard)
>> because it won't
>> fuss even more with your program, and it will save effort, because you
>> won't have
>> to debug simple loops that have bounds changed, are removed completely, or
>> otherwise wrecked.
>> You can find discussions of it elsewhere (which is how I found compiler
>> options to stop it).
>> I'd forgotten all about it until it surfaced again.
>
> Thanks. Reminds me I liked gcc when it applied very few optimizations.
> I guess it must have been focused on machine-specific optimizations
> back in 2007/2008. I had a cpu newer than gcc had support for, and
> compilation was actually quick. Anyone know if -O0 is a reasonable
> option these days? (I mean tested well enough to be reasonably
> bug-free.)

I've recenetly seen a few examples where -O0 would produce a
segfaulting executable, while any other -Ox would work fine.
Also, I don't know what gcc authors are smoking, but "strcpy(tmp,
"what.");" will be compiled to a few mov instructions with -O0, while
-Os still has a call to strcpy, just the way it *should* always be,
imho. I just checked this once again (gcc-4.8.4) and it still applies.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-15 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-15  8:21 Charles Forsyth
2015-06-15 13:41 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2015-06-15 14:56   ` Siarhei Zirukin [this message]
2015-06-15 15:37     ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2015-06-15 16:05     ` dexen deVries
2015-06-15 14:41 ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-06-15 23:06 ` [9fans] Wildly off-topic Andrew Simmons
2015-06-15 23:15   ` Ryan Gonzalez
2015-06-15 23:22   ` Bakul Shah
2015-06-16  3:35     ` Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
2015-06-15 23:39   ` Kurt H Maier

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=CADuwikVv5wRY+5iKjujud-JvW5tF_-1o8npx_u51G48mzSkeug@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=ftrvxmtrx@gmail.com \
    --cc=9fans@9fans.net \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).