Re: [9fans] problem with acme on 9front

[Siarhei Zirukin <ftrvxmtrx@gmail.com>]

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In 9front's version of sam there are two additional commands that could
help you with "complex" commands, perhaps.

^ Plan 9-command
               Send the standard output of the Plan 9 command to the
               command window.

_ Plan 9-command
               Send the range to the standard input, and send the
               standard output of the Plan 9 command to the command
               window.

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 11:52 PM, Mark Lee Smith <netytan@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the interesting comments.
>
> I've been making an effort to use Sam, in the interest of my own
> understanding. One of the biggest barriers I've hit is that there doesn't
> appear to be a good way to save complex edit commands for later. The man
> page suggests that it's possible to send commands to Sam from shell scripts.
>
>         External communication
>           Sam listens to the edit plumb port.  If plumbing is not
>           active, on invocation sam creates a named pipe /srv/sam.user
>           which acts as an additional source of commands.  Characters
>           written to the named pipe are treated as if they had been
>           typed in the command window.
>
>           B is a shell-level command that causes an instance of sam
>           running on the same terminal to load the named files. B uses
>           either plumbing or the named pipe, whichever service is
>           available.  If plumbing is not enabled, the option allows a
>           line number to be specified for the initial position to dis-
>           play in the last named file (plumbing provides a more gen-
>           eral mechanism for this ability).
>
>           E is a shell-level command that can be used as $EDITOR in a
>           Unix environment.  It runs B on file and then does not exit
>           until file is changed, which is taken as a signal that file
>           is done being edited.
>
> I use Plan9Port on OpenBSD and typically use the plumber with Acme. I've
> changed "editor" to sam, and read the B and E scripts. As I understand it
> the plumbing approach doesn't allows sending arbitrary commands, so I've
> stopped the plumber. I'm unable to find the named pipe and looking at the
> sam source code it's not obvious to me how or whether such a pipe is
> created. Is this capability still present in Sam? Perhaps the plumber has
> completely subsumed this by now? Ultimately what I'd like to know is how
> you go about reusing common commands? Do you snarf and paste them? I was
> thinking that it would be useful to create scripts like "ap" which select
> the current paragraph (name inspired by Vim.) What's the typical workflow
> when using Sam? I don't deny that it's a great editor. Writing several
> thousand words in Sam yesterday was a pleasure.
>
> Maybe I'm completely off base here?
>
> All the best,
>
> Mark
>
>
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> On Fri, 20 May 2016 at 22:05 Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I started with Sam a sit ran on all the different unixes I used an vi an
>> emacs just felt clunky.
>>
>> I never got into help and when acme replaced that I just never made the
>> transition.
>>
>> I love Sam, though it is because I know it so well.
>>
>> btw, anyone written scripts to allow the plan9 wiki to be edited from
>> Sam? maybe the wiki is outmoded these days?
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>
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