From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1a806fac73b7f5d77492e855f816fca4@quintile.net> References: <20130905230735.Horde.uX0zjY3pqclxqj9wO4Uw-Q1@ssl.eumx.net> <1a806fac73b7f5d77492e855f816fca4@quintile.net> From: =?UTF-8?B?QXJhbSBIxIN2xINybmVhbnU=?= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 02:35:57 +0300 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7b2ffe34-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Good grief, I write lots of code for plan9, only some of which I > decide is successfull and well written enough to release. This is my > choice and only mine I don't remember you bragging about your unpublished work though. > I created it I do what I want with it. I believe the rules are different when the work is research, sponsored by public money. People are getting research grants to work on nix. > as far as i know, there is no private nix development going on Who are you kidding. This is the norm around here. I have been personally invited in multiple private Plan 9-related projects by some of the few proemiment members of this community that still write code. This has always been the norm; read 15 year old 9fans posts and find that the same attitude (and complaints) prevail. It's not that people want stuff to be secret, it's just that tending a community takes effort and they don't care. They want to do the job themselves, they want to write that paper without pesky noise from the community interfering and when it is done they don't mind if you have it. Sometimes you will get it, sometimes you will not. If you ask, you will almost always get it. Everything is developed in secret without the involvment of any potential parties. Sure, everybody has the right to work in any way they like (except when the work is paid by public money), but you reap what youb sow. The lack of public interest in Plan 9 is due to this attitude. It has plagued the project from the very beginning. --=20 Aram H=C4=83v=C4=83rneanu