From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 21:42:24 -0700 Message-ID: From: Omar Radwan To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2b2eeda122804ff9e2147 Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0c2ae732-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a11c2b2eeda122804ff9e2147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I learned about plan9 a couple days ago, and I'm impressed. But I do have a couple questions: Where can I learn all the commands and all the important programs(editors, compilers, etc)? Does it use a microkernel? Is it better than UNIX and Unix-like Os's? And How? Would it be compatible with SATA drives? Are there any more releases? Or was the last time it was updates 2002? What is its development model? Are there any new things that will be implemented in the OS? Does it have a web browser? How many languages does the compiler support? What's distributed computing exactly? Why isn't it so popular? I hope these aren't too many questions. :). On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:42 PM, <9fans-request@9fans.net> wrote: > Welcome to the 9fans@9fans.net mailing list! > > To post to this list, send your email to: > > 9fans@9fans.net > > General information about the mailing list is at: > > http://mail.9fans.net/listinfo/9fans > > If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to > or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your > subscription page at: > > http://mail.9fans.net/options/9fans/toxemicsquire4%40gmail.com > > You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: > > 9fans-request@9fans.net > > with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the > quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. > > You must know your password to change your options (including changing > the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: > > 3224522 > > Normally, Mailman will remind you of your 9fans.net mailing list > passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you > prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to > unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on > your options page that will email your current password to you. > --001a11c2b2eeda122804ff9e2147 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I learned about plan9 a couple days ago, and I'm= impressed. But I do have a couple questions:
=C2=A0
Wh= ere can I learn all the commands and all the important programs(editors, co= mpilers, etc)?
Does it use a microkernel?
Is it better than UNIX and = Unix-like Os's? And How?
Would it be compatible with SATA= drives?
Are there any more releases? Or was the last time it was= updates 2002?
What is its development model?
Are there any new things that= will be implemented in the OS?
Does it have a web browser?
=
How many languages does the compiler support?
What's dis= tributed computing exactly?
Why isn't it so popular?

I hope these are= n't too many questions. :).



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--001a11c2b2eeda122804ff9e2147-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 00:48:47 -0400 From: sl@9front.org To: 9fans@9fans.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0c335a84-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > I learned about plan9 a couple days ago, and I'm impressed. But I do have a > couple questions: A lot of information (a links to more) is collected here: http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/fqa sl From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:14:52 -0600 Message-ID: From: andrey mirtchovski To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0ce37ff4-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 >> You must know your password to change your options (including changing >> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: >> >> 3224522 >> please change your password for this mailing list. this one is out in public. i hope you aren't reusing passwords. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 20:16:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: Nick LaForge To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ffbae41885e1704ffed66a7 Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0ce88256-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --e89a8ffbae41885e1704ffed66a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 And, today especially, that advice applies to everybody: http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breach-highlights-widespread-security-flaws On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > >> You must know your password to change your options (including changing > >> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: > >> > >> 3224522 > >> > > please change your password for this mailing list. this one is out in > public. > > i hope you aren't reusing passwords. > > --e89a8ffbae41885e1704ffed66a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


O= n Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski <mirtchovski@gmail.c= om> wrote:
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--e89a8ffbae41885e1704ffed66a7-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <1407914954.50601.YahooMailBasic@web121006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:29:14 -0700 From: John Francis Lee To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0eb649b0-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 The reason things are so insecure is because the US government likes it tha= t way, desinged it that way and does everything it can to keep it that way.= They are the beyond a doubt the biggest gang of organized criminals on ear= th : liars, murderers, spies ... you name it. Thanks for welcoming me to the list ... but I see you use google yourself .= .. second only to the US government as spies ... soon to surpass, I'm sure.= I use yahoo trash mail for the list because I'd like to keep my 'real' ema= il address to myself (when I find one). You deliver all your correspondents= 's mail to the googleplex along with your own. You have a choice ... but yo= u foreclose your correspondents' ... if they want to correspond with you. G= oogle has it all. -- "This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies inc= luding the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of send= er or recipient." John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000 Thailand -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 8/6/14, Nick LaForge wrote: Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 10:16 AM =20 And, today especially, that advice applies to everybody: =20 http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breac= h-highlights-widespread-security-flaws =20 =20 =20 On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: =20 >> You must know your password to change your options (including changing =20 >> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. =A0It is: =20 >> =20 >> =A0 3224522 =20 >> =20 =20 =20 please change your password for this mailing list. this one is out in public. =20 =20 =20 i hope you aren't reusing passwords. =20 =20 =20 =20 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1407914954.50601.YahooMailBasic@web121006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1407914954.50601.YahooMailBasic@web121006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:37:22 +1000 Message-ID: From: Shane Morris To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1130cc46d3869805007ddbe1 Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0ebc1c00-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a1130cc46d3869805007ddbe1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You should amend that "This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." with something about shadowy Goggle like computers feltching information on your spending habits... "The world changed on us Marty - and without our help, I might add..." On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: > The reason things are so insecure is because the US government likes it > that way, desinged it that way and does everything it can to keep it that > way. They are the beyond a doubt the biggest gang of organized criminals on > earth : liars, murderers, spies ... you name it. > > Thanks for welcoming me to the list ... but I see you use google yourself > ... second only to the US government as spies ... soon to surpass, I'm > sure. I use yahoo trash mail for the list because I'd like to keep my > 'real' email address to myself (when I find one). You deliver all your > correspondents's mail to the googleplex along with your own. You have a > choice ... but you foreclose your correspondents' ... if they want to > correspond with you. Google has it all. > > -- > "This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies > including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of > sender or recipient." > > John Francis Lee > 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai > T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000 > Thailand > > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 8/6/14, Nick LaForge wrote: > > Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list > To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> > Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 10:16 AM > > And, today > especially, that advice applies to everybody: > > > http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breach-highlights-widespread-security-flaws > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at > 5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski > wrote: > > >> You must know your password > to change your options (including changing > > >> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: > > >> > > >> 3224522 > > >> > > > > please change your password for this mailing list. > this one is out in public. > > > > i hope you aren't reusing passwords. > > > > > > > --001a1130cc46d3869805007ddbe1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You should amend that "This message has been intercepted and read by= U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or= warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." with something about sh= adowy Goggle like computers feltching information on your spending habits..= .

"Th= e world changed on us Marty - and without our help, I might add..."


On Wed,= Aug 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM, John Francis Lee <jfmxl@yahoo.com> w= rote:
The reason things are so insecure is because= the US government likes it that way, desinged it that way and does everyth= ing it can to keep it that way. They are the beyond a doubt the biggest gan= g of organized criminals on earth : liars, murderers, spies ... you name it= .

Thanks for welcoming me to the list ... but I see you use google yourself .= .. second only to the US government as spies ... soon to surpass, I'm s= ure. I use yahoo trash mail for the list because I'd like to keep my &#= 39;real' email address to myself (when I find one). You deliver all you= r correspondents's mail to the googleplex along with your own. You have= a choice ... but you foreclose your correspondents' ... if they want t= o correspond with you. Google has it all.

--
"This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencie= s including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of= sender or recipient."

John Francis Lee
246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai
T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000
Thailand

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 8/6/14, Nick LaForge <n= icklaforge@gmail.com> wrote:

=C2=A0Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list =C2=A0To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net>
=C2=A0Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 10:16 AM

=C2=A0And, today
=C2=A0especially, that advice applies to everybody:

=C2=A0h= ttp://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breach-= highlights-widespread-security-flaws



=C2=A0On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at
=C2=A05:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski <mirtchovski@gmail.com>
=C2=A0wrote:

=C2=A0>> You must know your password
=C2=A0to change your options (including changing

=C2=A0>> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. =C2=A0It is:

=C2=A0>>

=C2=A0>> =C2=A0 3224522

=C2=A0>>



=C2=A0please change your password for this mailing list.
=C2=A0this one is out in public.



=C2=A0i hope you aren't reusing passwords.







--001a1130cc46d3869805007ddbe1-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <1407915859.51091.YahooMailBasic@web121001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:44:19 -0700 From: John Francis Lee To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0ec3088a-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 sorry ... I didn't realize I was replying to the list ... the email I got c= ame from an individual -- "This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies inc= luding the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of send= er or recipient." John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000 Thailand -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 8/13/14, Shane Morris wrote: Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2014, 2:37 PM =20 You should amend that "This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." with something about shadowy Goggle like computers feltching information on your spending habits... =20 "The world changed on us Marty - and without our help, I might add..." =20 =20 On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM, John Francis Lee wrote: =20 The reason things are so insecure is because the US government likes it that way, desinged it that way and does everything it can to keep it that way. They are the beyond a doubt the biggest gang of organized criminals on earth : liars, murderers, spies ... you name it. =20 =20 =20 =20 Thanks for welcoming me to the list ... but I see you use google yourself ... second only to the US government as spies ... soon to surpass, I'm sure. I use yahoo trash mail for the list because I'd like to keep my 'real' email address to myself (when I find one). You deliver all your correspondents's mail to the googleplex along with your own. You have a choice ... but you foreclose your correspondents' ... if they want to correspond with you. Google has it all. =20 =20 =20 =20 -- =20 "This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." =20 =20 =20 John Francis Lee =20 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai =20 T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000 =20 Thailand =20 =20 =20 -------------------------------------------- =20 On Wed, 8/6/14, Nick LaForge wrote: =20 =20 =20 =A0Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list =20 =A0To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> =20 =A0Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 10:16 AM =20 =20 =20 =A0And, today =20 =A0especially, that advice applies to everybody: =20 =20 =20 =A0http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-br= each-highlights-widespread-security-flaws =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =A0On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at =20 =A05:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski =20 =A0wrote: =20 =20 =20 =A0>> You must know your password =20 =A0to change your options (including changing =20 =20 =20 =A0>> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. =A0It is: =20 =20 =20 =A0>> =20 =20 =20 =A0>> =A0 3224522 =20 =20 =20 =A0>> =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =A0please change your password for this mailing list. =20 =A0this one is out in public. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =A0i hope you aren't reusing passwords. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1407915859.51091.YahooMailBasic@web121001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1407915859.51091.YahooMailBasic@web121001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 01:20:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: Nick LaForge To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0ef4429c-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 The last two comments on this page might be of interest: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7640937 (I found that simply by searching using the 'site' operator on Google: "site:news.ycombinator.com maidsafe" news.ycombinator.com is a good place to read about a given startup.) On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:44 AM, John Francis Lee wrote: > sorry ... I didn't realize I was replying to the list ... the email I got came from an individual > > -- > "This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." > > John Francis Lee > 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai > T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000 > Thailand > > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 8/13/14, Shane Morris wrote: > > Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list > To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2014, 2:37 PM > > You should > amend that "This message has been > intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including > the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge > of sender or recipient." with something about shadowy > Goggle like computers feltching information on your spending > habits... > > "The world changed on us > Marty - and without our help, I might > add..." > > > On Wed, > Aug 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM, John Francis Lee > wrote: > > The > reason things are so insecure is because the US government > likes it that way, desinged it that way and does everything > it can to keep it that way. They are the beyond a doubt the > biggest gang of organized criminals on earth : liars, > murderers, spies ... you name it. > > > > > Thanks for welcoming me to the list ... but I see you use > google yourself ... second only to the US government as > spies ... soon to surpass, I'm sure. I use yahoo trash > mail for the list because I'd like to keep my > 'real' email address to myself (when I find one). > You deliver all your correspondents's mail to the > googleplex along with your own. You have a choice ... but > you foreclose your correspondents' ... if they want to > correspond with you. Google has it all. > > > > > -- > > "This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. > government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without > notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or > recipient." > > > > John Francis Lee > > 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai > > T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000 > > Thailand > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 8/6/14, Nick LaForge > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" > mailing list > > To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" > <9fans@9fans.net> > > Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 10:16 AM > > > > And, today > > especially, that advice applies to everybody: > > > > http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breach-highlights-widespread-security-flaws > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at > > 5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski > > wrote: > > > > >> You must know your password > > to change your options (including changing > > > > >> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It > is: > > > > >> > > > > >> 3224522 > > > > >> > > > > > > > > please change your password for this mailing list. > > this one is out in public. > > > > > > > > i hope you aren't reusing passwords. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1407915859.51091.YahooMailBasic@web121001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 01:22:24 -0700 Message-ID: From: Nick LaForge To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list Topicbox-Message-UUID: 0efc86a0-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Please ignore my last message. It was intended for an entirely different email thread. How embarrassing. (At least the SnR was pretty low to begin with.) On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Nick LaForge wrote: > The last two comments on this page might be of interest: > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7640937 > > (I found that simply by searching using the 'site' operator on Google: > "site:news.ycombinator.com maidsafe" news.ycombinator.com is a good > place to read about a given startup.) > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:44 AM, John Francis Lee wrote: >> sorry ... I didn't realize I was replying to the list ... the email I got came from an individual >> >> -- >> "This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient." >> >> John Francis Lee >> 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai >> T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000 >> Thailand >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> On Wed, 8/13/14, Shane Morris wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" mailing list >> To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net> >> Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2014, 2:37 PM >> >> You should >> amend that "This message has been >> intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including >> the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge >> of sender or recipient." with something about shadowy >> Goggle like computers feltching information on your spending >> habits... >> >> "The world changed on us >> Marty - and without our help, I might >> add..." >> >> >> On Wed, >> Aug 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM, John Francis Lee >> wrote: >> >> The >> reason things are so insecure is because the US government >> likes it that way, desinged it that way and does everything >> it can to keep it that way. They are the beyond a doubt the >> biggest gang of organized criminals on earth : liars, >> murderers, spies ... you name it. >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for welcoming me to the list ... but I see you use >> google yourself ... second only to the US government as >> spies ... soon to surpass, I'm sure. I use yahoo trash >> mail for the list because I'd like to keep my >> 'real' email address to myself (when I find one). >> You deliver all your correspondents's mail to the >> googleplex along with your own. You have a choice ... but >> you foreclose your correspondents' ... if they want to >> correspond with you. Google has it all. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> "This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. >> government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without >> notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or >> recipient." >> >> >> >> John Francis Lee >> >> 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai >> >> T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000 >> >> Thailand >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> >> On Wed, 8/6/14, Nick LaForge >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the "9fans" >> mailing list >> >> To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" >> <9fans@9fans.net> >> >> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 10:16 AM >> >> >> >> And, today >> >> especially, that advice applies to everybody: >> >> >> >> http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breach-highlights-widespread-security-flaws >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at >> >> 5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> You must know your password >> >> to change your options (including changing >> >> >> >> >> the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It >> is: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 3224522 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> please change your password for this mailing list. >> >> this one is out in public. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> i hope you aren't reusing passwords. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>