Troff + net, I added ideas from vrml's for AR glasses I use for HUD
documents as I look off monitor still bashing the keyboard. Web proxy for
format translation.

On Sep 17, 2016 10:06 AM, "hiro" <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's hard to have a technical argument about this, because technical
> consideration was never a big driver of web "technologies".
>
> > Web programming would have also have started off with far greater ability
> There is nothing wrong with the web having a limited scope of features.
>
> > Web games, video-streaming applications, etc. on par with local
> applications
> If they are on par, then why waste time with the web part?
>
> > waiting years for even simple things to be standardized
> They never actually did wait. What they implemented instead was always
> horrible, and the incompatible standards created after the fact just
> make it even worse.
>
> > cookies and other privacy issues
> > sandboxed
> security and privacy in the web is hopeless. it plainly was never a real
> goal.
>
> > beneficial to getting them into programming
> popular things tend to drive people. doesn't say anything about the
> technical or even educational qualities though.
>
> > [...] friends in web development, they
> > have expressed concerns about ease-of-use [...]
> In this case they are liars. i know no single web developer who cares
> about ease-of-use.
>
> > system languages did not [...attract] them.
> it's not for everyone to design systems. but they still managed (if i
> am to believe you against their will) to waste their time doing
> redundant system development, reinventing poorly what we already had,
> which they couldn't find enough motivation to learn about.
>
> "the plan 9 way" is often only used in the sense of being consistent.
> This, elegance and cleanness is rarely seen in software, hardly
> evaluated and only often demanded. But some principles are just
> polished unix ideas and many others did exist before.
>
> Plan 9 technically is just one small collection of more consistent
> alternative building blocks, but the web has ignored, reinvented or
> misunderstood most others, too.
>
>