Re: [9fans] Re: Time for 9? :-)

[Michael Jensen <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com>]

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Well, I've now done about all I can at this end.  As I suddenly suspected
right before the test, connecting an msata drive to the computer via an
msata-sata adaptor didn't work.  It still looks like a sata.  I assume.

I how have the msata in the T430, and it is at least recognized.  Which
shows that at least -something- is working.  However, selecting the boot
drive still fails, same as before, asking again and again, an infinite
loop.  In theory I could do the same test with the T420, but.. why would
the results be different?

I can still try the test with this computer, the 7440.

On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 1:29 PM Michael Jensen <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Here is the page with the claim that the 7440 works the same way as the
> thinkpads:
> https://superuser.com/questions/743040/will-a-sata-ssd-drive-work-in-wwan-minipcie-slot.
> (about half-way down the page)
>
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 1:26 PM Michael Jensen <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> For the record, I have now done more research into your reference to a
>> "SATA Controller".  I think I mainly did this out of curiosity.  It being
>> obviously very relevant and important.  It turns out, obviously?, that this
>> controller isn't actually a part of the "computer" at all.  It is a part of
>> the "storage".  That means that if I can just find a storage medium that
>> contains the right hardware, I should be good to go.  As an aside, I will
>> observe that I have now found this page:
>> http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/hardware/thinkpad/wwan_ssd.html, with
>> details about hardware support.  So for my thinkpads, the solution may be
>> as simple as purchasing the right kind of storage.  I have now tracked down
>> suppliers for it, and so will presumably have some soon.
>>
>> As for the 7450 (apparently for the 7440, the same method can be used as
>> for the thinkpads), it actually originally came with mSATA, and I still
>> have all the relevant parts.  So for it as well, all I need is to purchase
>> fresh mSATA storage.  (The old storage died rather catastrophically, one of
>> life's learning experiences).
>>
>> Obviously getting the system to work with "ordinary" SATA will be very
>> beneficial for many people, including me, and will hence further encourage
>> adoption of the system.  I think.  Others will be far more knowledgeable
>> than me.  At least with my thinkpads, it will allow the use of a second
>> ssd, or allow the wwan slot to be used for it's original purpose.  Correct
>> me if I'm wrong.  ..  :-)
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2025 at 9:19 PM Michael Jensen <
>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Some further information.
>>>
>>> I decided to collect the same information for my other computers, seeing
>>> as, hypothetically, if I end up loving 9front, I'll want to switch all my
>>> computers over.  (..once enough software has been written/ported for that
>>> to be feasible, if it ever is..)
>>> I have already documented what happens with the 7450, and my thinkpad
>>> T430.  There wasn't much to document for the 430.
>>>
>>> I also have a Dell Latitude e7440.  I just tested it, and it looks like
>>> it gives results similar to the T430:
>>>
>>> ..a bunch of output..
>>>
>>> /dev/sdM0: MMC Host Controller
>>> /dev/sdM1: MMC Host Controller
>>> /dev/sdM2: MMC Host Controller
>>> bootargs is (tcp, tls, il, local!device)[]
>>>
>>> ..which I suspect indicates that this hardware is not supported, or
>>> something else is wrong.  there absolutely may be critical info in the "a
>>> bunch of output".  unfortunately, my phone (which contains my camera) is
>>> broken, so if more info is needed, we either have to wait, or I have to
>>> type it in.
>>>
>>> ..and I have now done the same test with the T420, which I have been
>>> using as one of my two daily drivers.  With it, I am able to select what I
>>> think is the boot drive.. but when I do, it just asks me again.. and
>>> again.. and again.. looks like an infinite loop to me..
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 4:35 PM Michael Jensen <
>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> wow.. well, thanks!  Yes, that will be greatly appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> I have already tried a separate computer, I encountered another kind of
>>>> problem, that I also documented.  I can certainly try it again, but even if
>>>> I do, the controller for the current machine will still be absolutely
>>>> appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> Michael :-)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 11:18 AM Ori Bernstein <ori@eigenstate.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 09:20:05 -0500, Michael Jensen <
>>>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Thank you enormously for your help.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > term% ip/ipconfig
>>>>> > term% sysinfo -p
>>>>> >
>>>>> > this gives:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 1) near the bottom of the s creen where there is no window:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > #l1: file does not exist: 'lib/firmware/iwm-7265-17'
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2) timewise after that, directly below the term% sysinfo -p,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://sysinfo.9front.org/src/646/body
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ..now.. that might already have auto-submitted a bunch of
>>>>> information to
>>>>> > your servers..  if that is the case.. well.. you are the masters..
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>> > ..hats off to you.. :-)
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Alright -- so, it looks like there's no support for your SATA
>>>>> controller right now, though I think it'll be really easy to
>>>>> add. I'll give it a shot later this week, and put together an
>>>>> iso you can test with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alternatively, try a separate computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>     Ori Bernstein
>>>>>

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