Re: [9fans] Re: Time for 9? :-)

[Michael Jensen <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com>]

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This is about the best I can do.  I have to take the picture at exactly the
right time to get all the output before it vanishes.  I took one last
picture.  Best I can do to capture the last output before things go totally
hay-wire.

from here, I'll repeat the process with a fresh ssd, stop torturing
myself.  eventually, I'll try installing another os on this one, or try
using it as an external data-storage device.. :-)

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On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 8:57 PM Michael Jensen <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have a better understanding now of what is happening.  It seems that it
> now prompts me for what I want to do vis-a-vis configfs, and then jumps
> over partdisk and prepdisk.  It is now telling me that they are done, even
> though I totally absolutely didn't do them.  at least, not this time
> around.  so.. the only thing that makes sense is that it is detecting what
> I told it to do the last time I tried to install, and is assuming
> (correctly, as it happens) that I still want it to do that same thing.
> however, what if I had realized I wanted to change something?  seems like a
> dangerous policy.  There must be a way of getting at these settings again,
> for when people want to change them later.
>
> Ok, here are 4 more pictures.  when it gets to reeming.. all hell breaks
> loose.  to capture all the output, I would have to re-launch the process..
> I'll do that, and send it along a little later..  ..I mean, maybe it's
> doing it's thing perfectly, and I just don't have the experience to
> recognize it..
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 3:41 PM Michael Jensen <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The situation is overall very strange.  ..or maybe not strange at all..
>> no errors seem to be reproducible.  At the moment, I'm carefully
>> documenting my progress through the install and.. it actually seems to be
>> working, except that I took the default (no) at the reaming option, then
>> saw that the instructions say to choose yes.  so now I'll have to restart.
>> sending along the pictures of progress to date so you have them..
>>  IMG_20251110_143536.jpg
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>>  IMG_20251110_143906.jpg
>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K1rzSXbiL4Swo5qYhlHdH6smuz9nxITp/view?usp=drive_web>
>>  IMG_20251110_143925.jpg
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>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/14pBaY90JGv-5qb68e5pkr7CZbmSEZ5hz/view?usp=drive_web>
>>  IMG_20251110_145441.jpg
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>>  IMG_20251110_145517.jpg
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>>  IMG_20251110_145751.jpg
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>>
>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 2:30 PM Michael Jensen <
>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've managed to get it working again!  it occurred to me that I -might-
>>> be able to get a complete reset by holding down the main power button for
>>> 30 seconds or so, I've forgotten whether this should be while the machine
>>> is plugged in or not, so I tried both.  ..it worked!
>>>
>>> As for seeing the full output.. the only way I can think of to do this
>>> would be to take multiple pictures of it..
>>>
>>> I have now done this.  however, much to my surprise, the install method
>>> did -not- seem to be the same this time around.  As for what the cause of
>>> this could be.. I have no idea.  Right now, I have absolutely no confidence
>>> that it is doing what it is supposed to.  I'll send the  pics I have, not
>>> expecting them to be much help.  I did not succeed in getting all the
>>> output because it started printing things to the screen faster than I could
>>> capture them, and I lost control of which part of the screen got
>>> displayed.  I further expect I will have to do a hard-reboot to regain
>>> control of the system.. it's a weird feeling.. less than a year ago openbsd
>>> felt like an alien planet..
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2025 at 11:35 PM Ori Bernstein <ori@eigenstate.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I haven't seen this before. It would be useful to see the full output,
>>>> including the suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 21:39:29 -0500, Michael Jensen <
>>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Greetings again all.
>>>> >
>>>> > I have now attempted to install 9front.  On my dell latitude e7450.  I
>>>> > followed the instructions at fqa.9front.org/fqa4.html.
>>>> >
>>>> > I encountered the following problems:
>>>> >
>>>> > I get as far a section 4.3.8 - prepdisk.  I follow the recommendation
>>>> of
>>>> > accepting the suggestion, and type w, then hit <enter>
>>>> >
>>>> > Normally, it should accept that, and I follow it up with q.
>>>> >
>>>> > Instead, I get:
>>>> >
>>>> > "
>>>> > error writing partition table to disk
>>>> > attempting to restore partitions to previous state
>>>> > cannot restore: error seeking on disk
>>>> > "
>>>> >
>>>> > It then sends me up a menu, and I get to re-specify a bunch of things.
>>>> > It gets back to approximately the same place, except this time,
>>>> instead of
>>>> > suggesting a layout, I get:
>>>> >
>>>> > "disk/prep: cannot open disk: file too small to be a disk"
>>>> >
>>>> > Continuing, I keep getting that error, even if I tell it to use esp
>>>> as my
>>>> > 9fat partition.
>>>> >
>>>> > I have consulted one youtube tutorial where they use the gefs as the
>>>> file
>>>> > system instead of the default in the tutorial.  if that works, great.
>>>> > Thought I should report this though.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers!
>>>> > Mike :-)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 6:03 PM Michael Jensen <
>>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Greetings :-)
>>>> > >
>>>> > > ..I am currently in a deep exploration of operating systems.
>>>> > > windows->ubuntu->guix&openbsd, with many more tried en-route.  now
>>>> I'm
>>>> > > hearing about plan9 and oberon.  So, plan9 is the bees-knees?
>>>> People
>>>> > > daydream wistfully about a world where it dominates..  So.. shall
>>>> we get on
>>>> > > with it?  :-)  Unfortunately, I go to the wiki for instructions on
>>>> > > installing it (
>>>> > > https://plan9.io/wiki/plan9/Installation_instructions/index.html),
>>>> and
>>>> > > find: "Beware: in the manner of wikis most everywhere, this one is
>>>> > > woefully out of date.
>>>> > > <
>>>> https://plan9.io/wiki/plan9/Beware:_in_the_manner_of_wikis_most_everywhere,_this_one_is_woefully_out_of_date
>>>> .>"
>>>> > > ..this is not encouraging.  In fact, it stops me in my tracks and
>>>> causes me
>>>> > > to write this e-mail instead.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > ..I currently have three computers.  Dell Latitudes e7450 and
>>>> e7440, and a
>>>> > > Thinkpad T430.  I am open to buying another one if there is a
>>>> particular
>>>> > > one that is recommended for plan9.  I can get another
>>>> > > more-or-less-realiable T430 for ~150 can.  ..I might poke around
>>>> trying to
>>>> > > follow the given instructions.. but my instinct says that I won't,
>>>> not
>>>> > > without more assurance of support.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > ..You may be wondering how I heard about plan9 in the first place.
>>>> Keep
>>>> > > in mind, hearing about it and becoming convinced it's worth
>>>> investigating,
>>>> > > are two different things.  I credit, in historical order, "The Art
>>>> of Unix
>>>> > > Programming", Suckless, and vis (the editor).  vis are the people
>>>> whose
>>>> > > documentation prodded me into seriously checking it out.  (..Of
>>>> course, now
>>>> > > that I search specifically for plan9, I get plenty of hits..)
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Cheers,
>>>> > > Michael :-)
>>>> > >
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>>>>     Ori Bernstein
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