From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2522920406.enqueue@as-laptop> <0031c5cf57e92ce48e169455b02639be@quintile.net> <8oqsn9xcur.ln2@news.homelinux.net> From: Dan Cross Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:25:23 -0500 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bde0400fc7304cf163e61 Subject: Re: [9fans] c++ Topicbox-Message-UUID: e0a68a68-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --0015174bde0400fc7304cf163e61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 VisitorFactoryBuilderFactorySingletonDecoratorFactory. On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > I'm writing Java now, after a long gap, and it's ok. > It has its share of annoying aspects, but it's not too bad. > Java is a bit like a high-level assembler for the JVM, > and there are too many packages, many with intricate interfaces and > conventions. > C# fixes every one of my complaints about the Java language, > and generally seems more thoughtful. > > I simply ignore the philosophy as much as I can, > although it's hard to escape the terminology (all those "factories"). > > On 22 November 2012 11:34, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: > > java feel highly inconsistent and are full of stupid busywork > > and strange programming philosophies that you have to "learn" about, > > but teach you nothing. > > --0015174bde0400fc7304cf163e61 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable VisitorFactoryBuilderFactorySingletonDecoratorFactory.


On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 6:57 AM, C= harles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm writing Java now, after a long gap, = and it's ok.
It has its share of annoying aspects, but it's not too bad.
Java is a bit like a high-level assembler for the JVM,
and there are too many packages, many with intricate interfaces and convent= ions.
C# fixes every one of my complaints about the Java language,
and generally seems more thoughtful.

I simply ignore the philosophy as much as I can,
although it's hard to escape the terminology (all those "factories= ").

On 22 November 2012 11:34, hiro <23h= iro@gmail.com> wrote:
> java feel highly inconsistent and are full of stupid busywork
> and strange programming philosophies that you have to "learn"= ; about,
> but teach you nothing.


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