From: Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] rc vs sh
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 16:05:42 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W69pPDWR0M=zRZLaVxY3ZuAdk9U-Nitm5UGU4a8CBWjag@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f75570880776a6235981eed7bc995de0@proxima.alt.za>
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Lucio De Re <lucio@proxima.alt.za> wrote:
>> But as I said, this is not to argument about Go developers' choices:
>> they do as they see fit
>
> I think their philosophy is sound, not just an arbitrary choice. The
> alternative is a commitment that can only be fulfilled by applying
> resources best utilised on the focal issue.
>
> For example, the kerTeX installation relies on an ftp client that
> accepts a URL on the command line. My UBUNTU installation has no such
> ftp command. That leaves you with the choice between driving the more
> conventional ftp program with a small script (not nice, but it can be
> done) or require (as you do for LEX and YACC) that wget be installed
> everywhere, not just where ftp isn't of the neat BSD variety.
>
> It's a choice you make on behalf of the user and you can be sure that
> a significant portion of your target market would prefer the opposite.
> A very small portion will also stand up and criticise you if you go
> the wget rule, whereas it is much harder to challenge the use of ftp
> with a script. However, of the two, wget is more robust.
>
> That's the way it is. Sometimes one has the luxury of doing things
> properly, sometimes it is more critical to arrive at a result first.
> A healthy ethos would encourage tidying up behind one, but the costs
> are seldom justified in the present development climate. Future
> conditions may be different and perhaps we can then all feel justified
> in chipping in to tidy up behind our less tidy pioneers.
Very well put.
- Dan C.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-30 10:35 UTC|newest]
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2012-08-28 8:57 Rudolf Sykora
2012-08-28 9:47 ` hiro
2012-08-28 9:52 ` dexen deVries
2012-08-28 10:27 ` Rudolf Sykora
2012-08-28 13:07 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-28 13:40 ` Rudolf Sykora
2012-08-28 14:10 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-28 14:13 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-08-28 14:52 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-28 15:05 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-08-28 15:18 ` Dan Cross
2012-08-28 15:30 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-08-28 15:45 ` Dan Cross
2012-08-28 17:43 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-08-28 18:20 ` Dan Cross
2012-08-28 18:26 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-08-28 18:39 ` Dan Cross
2012-08-28 18:47 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-08-28 20:42 ` Jeremy Jackins
2012-08-28 21:20 ` Dan Cross
2012-08-28 20:40 ` Uriel
2012-08-28 15:36 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-28 15:35 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-08-28 15:41 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-28 15:47 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-08-28 16:04 ` hiro
2012-08-28 16:05 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-28 17:46 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-08-28 18:19 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-28 18:18 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-08-28 20:44 ` Uriel
2012-08-31 22:24 ` Kurt H Maier
2012-08-31 23:00 ` Uriel
2012-08-31 23:15 ` hiro
2012-08-31 23:56 ` Matthew Veety
2012-09-02 15:20 ` suharik
[not found] ` <CAF9FGtS9xYBNzneNPs2eBkkqVGzn5V0FjdEWDYs_EaUu0waRvQ@mail.gmail.c>
2012-09-02 17:25 ` erik quanstrom
2012-09-02 20:40 ` suharik
2012-09-03 7:31 ` Rudolf Sykora
2012-09-03 8:22 ` dexen deVries
2012-09-03 10:04 ` suharik
2012-09-03 10:57 ` hiro
[not found] ` <CAF9FGtRdcFuuefr4q0zFBrkwaQ5a_-w4J-=xqo-MYp+phjQBaA@mail.gmail.c>
2012-09-03 13:42 ` erik quanstrom
[not found] ` <CAF9FGtTFskxpVd_CxGEKpRwfSihVjyREqWwFCmjiWksCKZoDvg@mail.gmail.c>
2012-09-03 13:46 ` erik quanstrom
2012-10-25 13:36 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2012-10-25 13:48 ` erik quanstrom
2012-09-03 8:32 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2012-08-28 16:06 ` tlaronde
2012-08-28 16:12 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2012-08-28 16:32 ` tlaronde
2012-08-28 20:43 ` tlaronde
2012-08-28 18:13 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-30 6:14 ` arnold
2012-08-30 7:41 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-30 9:34 ` tlaronde
2012-08-30 10:26 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-30 10:29 ` tlaronde
2012-08-30 10:50 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-30 10:35 ` Dan Cross [this message]
2012-08-28 14:16 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-28 14:58 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-28 14:16 ` dexen deVries
2012-08-28 14:23 ` hiro
2012-08-28 14:34 ` hiro
2012-08-29 9:16 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2012-08-29 15:10 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-08-29 15:22 ` hiro
2012-08-29 15:34 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-10-25 13:45 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2012-10-25 13:56 ` dexen deVries
2012-08-28 15:09 ` Dan Cross
[not found] ` <CAEoi9W6K07ZgNS+7-oeQY3dkedW7qZLnOh79m5J7KCw7os5aEQ@mail.gmail.c>
2012-08-28 15:26 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-28 15:40 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-28 15:34 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-28 18:24 ` dexen deVries
2012-08-28 18:44 ` [9fans] rc's shortcomings (new subject line) erik quanstrom
2012-08-28 19:34 ` dexen deVries
2012-08-29 0:06 ` arisawa
2012-08-29 8:12 ` dexen deVries
2012-08-28 19:41 ` Dan Cross
2012-08-28 20:14 ` Bakul Shah
2012-08-29 1:39 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-29 1:43 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-29 2:13 ` Bakul Shah
2012-08-29 2:23 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-29 2:44 ` Bakul Shah
2012-08-29 4:28 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-28 20:31 ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2012-09-04 17:27 ` 😜
2012-08-28 19:53 ` Bakul Shah
[not found] ` <CAEoi9W5bZE+coAaQA-Be4P_JQoB6TR31GS=gYhq=6BhHNXCRKw@mail.gmail.c>
2012-08-28 20:34 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-28 22:46 ` Bakul Shah
2012-08-29 1:28 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-29 8:09 ` dexen deVries
2012-08-29 8:38 ` Dan Cross
[not found] ` <CAEoi9W5_r=4w5EcdrbKuqD566p=C5KvEEHg72YKzdat18En2-w@mail.gmail.c>
2012-08-29 13:57 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-29 15:07 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-08-30 10:05 ` Dan Cross
2012-08-30 10:43 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-08-30 13:41 ` dexen deVries
2012-08-30 13:47 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-30 14:26 ` dexen deVries
2012-08-30 14:29 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-30 14:24 ` Dan Cross
[not found] ` <CAEoi9W6NL-zGryJnMrAX3B77bk1bOEMfkv_R7M4W052LZR4yrg@mail.gmail.c>
2012-08-30 14:26 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-30 14:33 ` Dan Cross
[not found] ` <CAEoi9W45W0pK7MA2FvxsCVCuRcqw-JxOiEn+JQtWMo0rFcSEpg@mail.gmail.c>
2012-08-30 14:41 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-30 14:48 ` dexen deVries
2012-08-30 15:11 ` sl
2012-08-30 15:13 ` Lucio De Re
2012-08-30 15:07 ` Burton Samograd
2012-08-30 15:13 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-08-30 15:14 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-08-30 17:02 ` Bakul Shah
2012-08-30 17:18 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-30 20:06 ` Charles Forsyth
[not found] ` <CAOw7k5jQxJCs64ZjrXp1mU0zTUTG6p7VXYX5ykwQ8OmFATLirg@mail.gmail.c>
2012-08-30 20:10 ` erik quanstrom
[not found] ` <CAEoi9W6c2JaxrTDwR76TjuN9DeBXnO6gueOGCaEh+Fksfb9zqQ@mail.gmail.c>
2012-08-30 13:33 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-30 14:21 ` Dan Cross
2012-08-30 14:25 ` Dan Cross
2012-08-30 14:45 ` Charles Forsyth
2012-08-30 14:55 ` Charles Forsyth
[not found] ` <CAEoi9W5AagpdK4aZCYs5tSMESU3yoMe9bmgX3GcphTcYuMq9kQ@mail.gmail.c>
2012-08-30 14:34 ` erik quanstrom
2012-08-30 14:44 ` erik quanstrom
[not found] ` <CAOw7k5i-JO=bOS8h+S0zdWghCWhSN36uFebMYnzvs=fdNQgA+g@mail.gmail.c>
2012-08-31 1:33 ` erik quanstrom
2012-10-25 14:56 ` [9fans] rc vs sh Ethan Burns
2012-10-25 15:08 ` hiro
2012-10-25 17:02 ` Gorka Guardiola
2012-10-25 17:18 ` Matthew Veety
2012-10-25 17:26 ` John Floren
2012-10-25 19:03 ` hiro
2012-10-25 19:08 ` Skip Tavakkolian
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