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Probably how a random teenager could break it in an afternoon. :-) > significant effort has been spent not only to come up with dp9ik and > verify it but also to document it openly and suggest it's use > repeatedly to the whole plan9 community (even non-9front-users). > > it's beyond me why more 9fans people are not taking this contribution > at face value. I wonder if you read the rest of my email.... > > I should note that a couple of years ago I talked to Eric Grosse about > > dp9ik and p9sk1. > > Who is Eric Grosse? https://n2vi.com/bio.html > > I do > > wish the name were different: c'mon guys, not _everything_ needs to be > > snarky. ?;-) > > I do wish there wasn't ever any reasons to ever be snarky to anybody > in the whole plan9 community. > > But sometimes it's easier to make some jokes than to solve all > perceived interpersonal issues of all involved people in the > community. 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