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Mon, 24 Jan 2022 10:18:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9D25920B-2845-4B25-9CDE-844C8ACFC275@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: From: Lucas Francesco Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 15:18:02 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 051fd7b0-7d42-11ec-9225-d971dccfd94a Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UNjI3YTI5YTdiYWJhZjI5ZS1NYzJiNTliNWIyNWQxOTU2ODJkZDkz?= =?UTF-8?B?MjRjPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Mc2b59b5b25d195682dd9324c:1:fhdQyE669jpTOWv6RG4OX2-KgPKWHtRbHnPcEkrKD40 khm is absolutely right, some of you are entirely missing the point. If you REALLY want 9fans to be about "no politics" y'all shall discuss what should be done or should be avoided in a new book, what other books got wrong and maybe if theres something to save about the one op is paying to substitute, maybe then you'll stop being a dretiment noise on the ML and help the next introduction of a nice book. this "no politics discussion" is bullshit btw, 9fans has always been a politics mess, plan9-adjacent communities conflicting, some not getting the respect they deserve and whatnot I don't care if some of the bigots in here are internalising the fact that the OP is paying up for other people to literally write a technical book due to reasons that currently affect the wellbeing of a lot of contributors of some of those 9 projects, the fact is: mycroftiv is paying for a technical book about 9, don't care about the political motivations? don't discuss that aspect. Better plan9 material is good even for you "snowflakes". On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 15:08, Jeremy Jackins wrot= e: > > Fuck you asshole! It=E2=80=99s garbage like you that morphs pleasant v= enues into fucking cesspools. > > The lack of self awareness is just stunning. > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 10:03, Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wr= ote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 06:55:27PM +0100, Alexandr Babic wrote: >> > >> I agree. This mailing list is turning out to be a bit too fucking = bizarro for my taste. >> > > If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. 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