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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6fce6af2-ea3d-11ea-8153-eb84c3f0aaeb >As another historical note, for a number of years (2006 to 2009 iirc) Plan= 9 reached the peak of 3 regular users in Brazil. Others came and went, but= those 3 are responsible for at least abaco, the initial python port, and t= he initial work into what is now the 9front bootloader. Also another note: from what I know fgb ( as you mention Abaco and he is the creator) Is argentinian, and Argentina isn't Brazillian territory, yet. I know "responsible" can have a different connotation/implication than creator, so i'd love to hear some clarification if there's a backstory though. I have no idea about the current 9front bootloader, and would love to hear notes about who did it, thanks to bringing it to light. Lucas Em s=C3=A1b., 29 de ago. de 2020 =C3=A0s 16:55, Iruat=C3=A3 Souza escreveu: > > Le sam. 29 ao=C3=BBt 2020 =C3=A0 19:26, Leonardo a =C3=A9crit : >> >> Cool! >> >> I want to make a Plan 9 distro aimed at brazilians: I'm at the beginning= of this journey. My plan is to translate all the documentation (articles a= nd man pages), try to make the system more user friendly (not for hackers b= ut for common people) and also work in ordinary software like a modern brow= ser, a word processor, spreadsheet software, a kind of powerpoint etc. >> > > As another historical note, for a number of years (2006 to 2009 iirc) Pla= n 9 reached the peak of 3 regular users in Brazil. Others came and went, bu= t those 3 are responsible for at least abaco, the initial python port, and = the initial work into what is now the 9front bootloader. > > So, Leonardo, welcome aboard :) > > Besides translation, what are the Brazilian-specific needs you are trying= to address? > I highly recommend you search the list for other projects similar to your= s. > > Anyway, I wish you the best of luck in the journey! > > iru > >> >> I am studying Plan 9 and I am totally in love with it: read files, write= to files and again: read files, write to files. And what else do you need = to do? Little or nothing: things are really simple. The NSA invented SELinu= x (mandatory access control) because it saw that, from a security point of = view, the idea of discretionary access control did not provide much. Okay, = it's an idea and it works. But Plan 9, before, had introduced the idea of n= amespace which is, by the way, a much simpler and smarter idea: each proces= s can have its own restricted view of the universe of files. I really don't= understand why Plan 9 has not been adopted. Legacy base? > > 9fans / 9fans / see discussions + participants + delivery options Permali= nk