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Sat, 13 Feb 2021 07:30:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a17:907:3a15:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 07:30:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3a43f603-21d5-4d03-aa30-3a8ca4f1b2c4@sirjofri.de> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 16:30:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] patches from 9front To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 637a3da6-6e10-11eb-a13d-ae56e9670fcb Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UYzgyOTM5ZjFmZGEwZTQ3OS1NZjYzOGE0ODIzMjZiMDk1NGY2ZmM4?= =?UTF-8?B?OGZkPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Mf638a482326b0954f6fc88fd:1:aVEflyGYmaOWi2Fal0BFmNC2DsScDNiqqoG6LlcvGEI perceived belligerence is generally best countered by empathy. fault-tolerant parsing of people's intentions and a will for de-escalation can help concentrate on the common vision. if there is any. perhaps you already know everything that linux does wrong, which plan9 supposedly did right ever since it's inception. personally i am still learning more in that regard, but it becomes easier if you're part of the inception and if people share ideas, practical experiences, educate each other and not just doing archeology, staring in awe at artworks, or worse: actually using the system. i know you know i don't know what i'm saying here. i guess in contrast it's still relevant, so i'll leave it here regardless, without my usual minute proofreading On 2/13/21, Lucio De Re wrote: > On 2/13/21, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> what is the dark side? for me the borders between plan9 and non-plan9 >> has been getting less tight, bec. with more experience i understand >> how to translate mindsets, or even code, from one system to the other >> without anybody in my real life ever accusing me of having watched too >> many ed wood movies. >> > I have no idea how to counter the belligerence with which more > conservative suggestions than accepting 9front as the torch-bearer for > the Plan 9 religion are addressed on this forum. Thankfully, it > doesn't actually matter that I can't. >=20 > But the misunderstanding of my use of "dark side" can't go > unchallenged. The Dark Side is what drives Linux development, the need > to discover new ways in which to make Linux and Gnu software larger > and larger, irrespective of whether that leads to greater > functionality or merely cosmetic, irrelevant decorations. >=20 > That's all that I believe needs saying, the details will make for > interesting archeology, a few hundred years, if that many, from now. >=20 > Lucio. ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tc82939f1fda0e479-Mf638a= 482326b0954f6fc88fd Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription