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Tue, 28 Dec 2021 12:33:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a59:ab8c:0:b0:248:ba1c:c015 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Dec 2021 12:33:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20211228132653.56b8f9a668c85f7c21614465@gmx.com> References: <20211228083239.bba54fe4393c6823e7370d2f@gmx.com> <20211228094103.f86f3bfcb130dc8a7210f4bd@gmx.com> <20211228095556.3bec3b81de61026713f6b747@gmx.com> <20211228100631.57c374374ebfc4c5e082ec69@gmx.com> <20211228103529.c61cf68dad61999a68b6466e@gmx.com> <66b0b44d-7c93-1955-a1b8-2d01aef68464@fjrhome.net> <20211228110324.06541d11a7b77f01bc817015@gmx.com> <20211228114524.291158da65e83bf3a81e2b95@gmx.com> <20211228122119.563d7889054219b0d2fc7014@gmx.com> <20211228132653.56b8f9a668c85f7c21614465@gmx.com> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 21:33:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] Boot CD chokes To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6fc681f2-681d-11ec-8c56-bcfd8fce19fe Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UNTg4ODU5MTExNGE3Y2YzNC1NYTRlNzM3NWUyMmMwMjRhZDgwNjM2?= =?UTF-8?B?Y2I4Pg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Ma4e7375e22c024ad80636cb8:1:2uWDK70CN58THttemWbvTNPMFSXbMrMFUtMBOxTALTY sure, i don't want every website to read like a manual page. but i want every manual page to be pedantic in the sense that it should be concise and informative. your example fits this definition. 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