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Wed, 15 May 2024 08:36:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4FB3A3BB-1CFA-4BC7-9DC2-CC9138B8325C@gmail.com> <2ff4cb73-352f-44e1-844b-5bb6cc92e1fe@posixcafe.org> <04a0afc1-6440-47b3-957c-0071ad88b117@posixcafe.org> In-Reply-To: From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 17:36:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9. To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: e36587ec-12d0-11ef-85ab-b9ee295ebe2c Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UYWQzZGMwYzkzMDM5YTdkMi1NZDE0Y2M5ZGZjOGM4Y2M1MzkxZmYw?= =?UTF-8?B?N2ZjPg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Md14cc9dfc8c8cc5391ff07fc:1:vlZl7JWKRMtR7D6qSSUiatG_hqPf1gW0w3NZj3hVZso > I suggested that the sources could be included in the distribution, so th= ey would not fork-rot as they are doing presently. 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