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From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Understanding /dev/draw
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:12:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFSF3XMoDaq4hFR9HC40taQYBoPz5MC0RR843Z1St9FVE1Kt_w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOk9ws12h_DsXmRuVpULHa68CP2qSFq6m52sVqZRdoVxkEiXKw@mail.gmail.com>

> In particular, /dev/draw's interface and documentation keep referring to
> the concept of a "window" indirectly. It seems that in some cases the
> server providing /dev/draw needs to track windows and refresh them. But,
> what defines a window in this protocol? Is every image a window or only
> some of them?

i'm not aware of "window"s on that layer, what specifically do you
mean with indirectly?

perhaps you mean layers? they can be put to "top" and "bottom".

> Also, I'm trying to understand how off-screen images, such as fonts are
> loaded. It seems that every image must be associated with a screen and be
> given a position within the screen. So, how do you prevent the image from
> being visible to the user?

on-screen images actually seem less intuitive, i don't know what makes
you think they have to be associated with a screen. they don't have
to, commonly aren't (though there will be a main screenimage for each
rio window for example (which will point to the same memory data in
the back though!)).

How do you make it visible to the user would be the correct question.

> Hopefully, if I can understand some of the high-level concepts here then
> the manual page will be all that I need. Does anyone have experience with
> this area or could point me to information that might help clarify it?

Perhaps start with the good old bitblt documentation. it's smaller and
doesn't have most of the less obvious features.
devdraw is a lot more convoluted and the way it interacts with
/dev/mouse and /dev/winname for example is extremely non-intuitive and
a lot of back and forth.

Have fun.



      parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-18 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-18 14:35 Chris McGee
2019-04-18 15:01 ` Lucio De Re
2019-04-18 15:25 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2019-04-18 15:30   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2019-04-18 15:33   ` Chris McGee
2019-04-18 17:27     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2019-04-18 17:52       ` erik quanstrom
2019-04-18 19:03         ` Chris McGee
2019-04-18 19:30           ` Joseph Stewart
2019-04-18 20:40             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2019-04-18 22:28               ` Joseph Stewart
2019-04-18 22:33                 ` hiro
2019-04-18 19:33           ` erik quanstrom
2019-04-18 20:37           ` David Hoskin
2019-04-19  0:22             ` Chris McGee
2019-04-19  1:26               ` David Hoskin
2019-04-18 18:12 ` hiro [this message]

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