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Wed, 15 May 2024 15:17:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2A276EDC-2F1A-49DF-B267-91BBC83C47D9@quintile.net> In-Reply-To: <2A276EDC-2F1A-49DF-B267-91BBC83C47D9@quintile.net> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 00:17:24 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9. To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: f2e0fbf6-1308-11ef-91a4-a0a1d5a6df3b Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UYWQzZGMwYzkzMDM5YTdkMi1NOWExMjQwZGZhMDYzODA5N2UzZDdi?= =?UTF-8?B?ZDg5Pg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M9a1240dfa0638097e3d7bd89:1:6Y5wJZksa0mMf1a7kvArtmvpZaR3mhTMp4kfOym8RTA noam said there's also some well-known issues with locks that still keeps happening in fossil. did you watch the outcome of last iwp9? he has the best description of the state of venti and fossil to date. On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 12:08=E2=80=AFAM Steve Simon w= rote: >=20 >=20 > Just a little first hand experience - I have run a fossil and venti serve= r for twenty years now. >=20 > Fossil suffered three problems in my opinion: >=20 > Firstly it was not well publicised that fossil was never designed to cope= with overflow; the sad truth is it fails catastrophically, as whitenessed = by Brucee. it should cope better really, but when used as a write buffer fo= r venti this is unlikely, it has never happened to me. >=20 > Secondly it had a race condition in the ephemeral snapshot code. the only= way to make fossil reliable was to turn these off. This bug was fixed by C= harles (i think, though perhaps it was Richard) about 10 years ago and with= the fix my server has been taking ephemeral snapshots ever since. >=20 > Thirdly venti and fossil are slow. >=20 > I think its sad (an emotion, sorry) that fossil sources where deleted fro= m 9front but i do understand the principal of not distributing things the c= ommunity does not wish to support. >=20 > -Steve >=20 ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tad3dc0c93039a7d2-M9a124= 0dfa0638097e3d7bd89 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription