Re: [9fans] New to plan9

[hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>]

maybe i can help by explaining the terminology that we use.

you plan to use the old desktop as the central fileserver and you want
the pi to be a netbooted terminal or cpu server.

a fairly standard setup. definitely read all of the documents in
/sys/doc, it's quite fun on the first time :)

On 10/16/21, joseph turco <italian.pepe.32@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the book resource. I plan to figure out how to get the two
> systems talking, and want to use the old desktop as the fs for the pi,
> while its running its own p9 instance. I am reading the man pages and the
> papers to see if I can find what i need for that to happen. As I said
> before, I am not well versed in Unix commands other than the basic stuff. I
> don't know pipes very well and really relied on googling more than doing
> myself for some things when I use Linux. More of a curse than a blessing.
>
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 10:11 AM Conor Williams <conor.williams@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> that 800 and odd book looks good Mart...
>> will have a read of it with freud later hahaha
>> /c:2021161015
>> ps: i have my masters degree document available and theres
>> some info on Plan 9 in it too from 02-2003
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 12:36 PM Mart Zirnask <martzirnask@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, if you want an overview of the system, Nemo's book "Introduction
>>> to Operating Systems Abstractions Using Plan 9 from Bell Labs" is an
>>> awesome resource.
>>> http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/9.intro.pdf
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Mart
>>>
>>> On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 13:14, Keith Gibbs <k@pixelheresy.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Yeah, don't switch for simple tools like mothra, but as you learn
>>> > more, there are strengths to both.
>>> >
>>> > I ran the "9miller" Pi version for a bit and as a retro computer
>>> > collector and old software junkie, I enjoyed myself, but I played with
>>> > VMs and then got some baremetal installs of 9front going.
>>> >
>>> > 9legacy is fantastic for the "historical preservation" end of things
>>> > and it totally usable.  I found myself more and more drawn to 9front
>>> > because it is more about *using* Plan 9 for either specialized purpose
>>> > or daily driver usage.  I personally run a 9front cpu+auth server on
>>> > my network with 9p/drawterm ports forwarded from my fiber hookup.  In
>>> > that way, I always have access to my 9 box from the office, from home,
>>> > from anywhere.  I use it for writing, C, Go, IRC, as well as a
>>> > webserver.  Also, since it is on my network, I can basically access
>>> > any machine of mine via sshfs or 9p at any time, making it a Rosetta
>>> > Stone of sorts.  Most new software made by the community tends to be
>>> > developed with 9front in mind/on 9front, so if you are looking for
>>> > things like YouTube playback, security, a more modern browser (netsurf
>>> > port), esoteric programming languages, etc.  you will have an easier
>>> > time on 9front.
>>> >
>>> > That being said, some really old stuff doesn't quite work the same as
>>> > old old 9, which can get annoying if you find docs or software from
>>> > decades ago, but that's less important for me personally.
>>> >
>>> > So get your feet wet!  If you find you like the retro computing aspect
>>> > most, 9legacy is a great distro.  If you are most interested in
>>> > modern/more experimental stuff, 9front is awesome.  That being said,
>>> > 9front is *not that far* from Plan 9 from Bell Labs 4th edition,
>>> > especially compared to Harvey, Jehanne, or even Inferno in a lot of
>>> > ways.  Folks from both (actually *all*) communities are frequent
>>> > readers/users of this mailing list.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > -pixelheresy
>>> >
>>> > Quoth joseph turco <italian.pepe.32@gmail.com>:
>>> > > Your quite right, I wouldn't switch to 9front for that reason, but
>>> > > is
>>> nice
>>> > > that 9front does have more secure protocols in place. I stuck with
>>> bell
>>> > > labs because the RPI iso was right there I wanted to see the OS from
>>> the
>>> > > beginning. Its also why I have the bootable 9legacy USB for my old
>>> desktop,
>>> > > but that's sitting around until I can figure out the OS, so then I
>>> can get
>>> > > it running how I want on there, and link up the systems so that the
>>> desktop
>>> > > acts as a shared fs.
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