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Sat, 16 Oct 2021 12:11:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a59:b6ed:0:b0:236:17d0:850e with HTTP; Sat, 16 Oct 2021 12:11:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <141E9336AE67480E134FDE7154F09B80@pixelheresy.com> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 21:11:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] New to plan9 To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: ef46b28c-2eb4-11ec-b649-e793221ed3ba Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UNGU4OTg5ZWU0Mjk1MWZhMC1NYzM1NjZlNjYxNWE5NmQwM2JjOTc5?= =?UTF-8?B?YmY5Pg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Mc3566e6615a96d03bc979bf9:1:Ho_roDP9rRoLf4RpNt7KIyoi7TOxjrglbLnNV8UK9cQ maybe i can help by explaining the terminology that we use. you plan to use the old desktop as the central fileserver and you want the pi to be a netbooted terminal or cpu server. a fairly standard setup. definitely read all of the documents in /sys/doc, it's quite fun on the first time :) On 10/16/21, joseph turco wrote: > Thanks for the book resource. I plan to figure out how to get the two > systems talking, and want to use the old desktop as the fs for the pi, > while its running its own p9 instance. I am reading the man pages and the > papers to see if I can find what i need for that to happen. As I said > before, I am not well versed in Unix commands other than the basic stuff.= I > don't know pipes very well and really relied on googling more than doing > myself for some things when I use Linux. More of a curse than a blessing. > > On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 10:11 AM Conor Williams > wrote: > >> that 800 and odd book looks good Mart... >> will have a read of it with freud later hahaha >> /c:2021161015 >> ps: i have my masters degree document available and theres >> some info on Plan 9 in it too from 02-2003 >> >> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 12:36 PM Mart Zirnask >> wrote: >> >>> Also, if you want an overview of the system, Nemo's book "Introduction >>> to Operating Systems Abstractions Using Plan 9 from Bell Labs" is an >>> awesome resource. >>> http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/9.intro.pdf >>> >>> Best, >>> Mart >>> >>> On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 13:14, Keith Gibbs wrote: >>> > >>> > Yeah, don't switch for simple tools like mothra, but as you learn >>> > more, there are strengths to both. >>> > >>> > I ran the "9miller" Pi version for a bit and as a retro computer >>> > collector and old software junkie, I enjoyed myself, but I played with >>> > VMs and then got some baremetal installs of 9front going. >>> > >>> > 9legacy is fantastic for the "historical preservation" end of things >>> > and it totally usable. I found myself more and more drawn to 9front >>> > because it is more about *using* Plan 9 for either specialized purpose >>> > or daily driver usage. I personally run a 9front cpu+auth server on >>> > my network with 9p/drawterm ports forwarded from my fiber hookup. In >>> > that way, I always have access to my 9 box from the office, from home, >>> > from anywhere. I use it for writing, C, Go, IRC, as well as a >>> > webserver. Also, since it is on my network, I can basically access >>> > any machine of mine via sshfs or 9p at any time, making it a Rosetta >>> > Stone of sorts. Most new software made by the community tends to be >>> > developed with 9front in mind/on 9front, so if you are looking for >>> > things like YouTube playback, security, a more modern browser (netsurf >>> > port), esoteric programming languages, etc. you will have an easier >>> > time on 9front. >>> > >>> > That being said, some really old stuff doesn't quite work the same as >>> > old old 9, which can get annoying if you find docs or software from >>> > decades ago, but that's less important for me personally. >>> > >>> > So get your feet wet! If you find you like the retro computing aspect >>> > most, 9legacy is a great distro. If you are most interested in >>> > modern/more experimental stuff, 9front is awesome. That being said, >>> > 9front is *not that far* from Plan 9 from Bell Labs 4th edition, >>> > especially compared to Harvey, Jehanne, or even Inferno in a lot of >>> > ways. Folks from both (actually *all*) communities are frequent >>> > readers/users of this mailing list. >>> > >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > >>> > -pixelheresy >>> > >>> > Quoth joseph turco : >>> > > Your quite right, I wouldn't switch to 9front for that reason, but >>> > > is >>> nice >>> > > that 9front does have more secure protocols in place. I stuck with >>> bell >>> > > labs because the RPI iso was right there I wanted to see the OS from >>> the >>> > > beginning. Its also why I have the bootable 9legacy USB for my old >>> desktop, >>> > > but that's sitting around until I can figure out the OS, so then I >>> can get >>> > > it running how I want on there, and link up the systems so that the >>> desktop >>> > > acts as a shared fs. >> *9fans * / 9fans / see discussions >> + participants >> + delivery options >> Permalink >> >> ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T4e8989ee42951fa0-Mc3566= e6615a96d03bc979bf9 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription