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From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] PDP11 (Was: Re: what heavy negativity!)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:11:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFSF3XNd=s7xxsPMmj2p2MJhxDO187TZGH2w6jDObec8rR_HSw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7aa20b09df49cbe7@orthanc.ca>

> One example is for an AIS transceiver on a boat.  By putting the
> radio and decoder at the top of the mast, the backhaul can be a
> cat-3 twisted pair cable, rather than a much heavier coax run from
> the antenna at the top of the mast to the receiver below decks.

Yeah, I've been sending 3Mbit I/Q samples over ethernet to a more
beefy computer. For non-technical crowds I described the rpi as a
passable USB->ethernet gateway for SDR tasks in that bandwidth.

But given the alternatives available back then, even the armv5 in the
kirkwood, which was cheaper even before the rpi became popular, did
the same job more stably, which is why i would never actually
recommend the pi. And there are even more alternatives now.

Even the rpi itself is proof that better alternatives exist (as they
did even back then when the first one out), because the newer rpi
revision (i think) has finally gained neon cpu extensions, which
surprisingly have been supported by gnuradio long before this, and a
reason why my bachelor thesis back then was an easy success :)

In general all limits that occured to me on the rpi were due to
stability (usb power and compatibility issues), but more concretely
for our discussion: lack of cpu power, mainly for the FFT. There were
no throughput, delay or memory copy bottlenecks for me.

This was using linux, because my mouse didn't work on the old rpi
plan9 image and sadly there was a time-limit...

Are you doing the AIS demodulation on plan9 on rpi? It would be a
great showcase. Wish I had been given the opportunity to find an
excuse to build something like that on plan9 instead :)



  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-11 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-09 19:47 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-09 22:01 ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-09 23:43 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-10  5:52   ` hiro
2018-10-10  8:13     ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-10  9:14       ` hiro
2018-10-10 13:59         ` Steve Simon
2018-10-10 21:32         ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-11 17:43     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 19:11       ` hiro [this message]
2018-10-11 19:27         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 19:56           ` hiro
2018-10-10  5:57   ` hiro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-10-10 22:19 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-10 17:34 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-10 21:54 ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-10 22:29   ` Kurt H Maier
2018-10-10 22:55     ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-11 11:19       ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2018-10-11  0:26   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-10-11  1:03     ` Steven Stallion
2018-10-14  9:46   ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2018-10-14 10:37     ` hiro
2018-10-14 17:34       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2018-10-14 19:17         ` hiro
2018-10-15  9:29         ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-10-10 16:14 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-10  0:15 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-10  0:22 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09 19:49 cinap_lenrek
2018-10-09 19:56 ` hiro
2018-10-08  3:38 Lucio De Re
2018-10-08  4:29 ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-08  7:20   ` hiro
2018-10-08 12:03     ` Charles Forsyth
2018-10-08 17:20       ` hiro
2018-10-08 21:55         ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-08 23:03           ` Dan Cross
2018-10-09  0:14             ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-09  1:34               ` Christopher Nielsen
2018-10-09  3:28               ` Lucio De Re
2018-10-09  8:23                 ` hiro
2018-10-09  9:45                 ` Ethan Gardener
2018-10-09 17:50                   ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-09 18:57                     ` Ori Bernstein
2018-10-10  7:32                 ` Giacomo Tesio
2018-10-09 17:45               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09 18:49                 ` hiro
2018-10-09 19:14                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09 22:05                     ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-11 17:54                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 18:04                         ` Kurt H Maier
2018-10-11 19:23                         ` hiro
2018-10-11 19:24                           ` hiro
2018-10-11 19:25                             ` hiro
2018-10-11 19:26                         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-10-11 19:39                           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 19:44                             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-10-11 19:47                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 19:57                                 ` hiro
2018-10-11 20:23                                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-10 10:42                     ` Ethan Gardener
2018-10-09 19:23                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09 19:34                     ` hiro
2018-10-09 19:36                       ` hiro
2018-10-09 19:40                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-10  0:18                       ` Dan Cross
2018-10-10  5:45                         ` hiro
2018-10-09 22:06                     ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-10  6:24                       ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-10 13:58                         ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-09 22:42                   ` Dan Cross
2018-10-09 19:09                 ` Bakul Shah
2018-10-09 19:30                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09  3:08             ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-09 11:58               ` Ethan Gardener
2018-10-09 13:59                 ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-09 22:22                 ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-10 10:38                   ` Ethan Gardener
2018-10-10 23:15                     ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-11 18:10                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-11 20:55                         ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-11 21:03                           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-10-09 14:02               ` erik quanstrom
2018-10-08  8:12   ` Nils M Holm
2018-10-08  9:12     ` Digby R.S. Tarvin
2018-10-08  8:09 ` Nils M Holm

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