From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <78587f5f1632c8cf8c715e64c46f6c40@proxima.alt.za> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:39:08 +0100 Message-ID: From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] quotefmtinstall Topicbox-Message-UUID: f5550192-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 hu? you can get x86s thrown after you for free. including the crt monitor and dirty model m keyboard. even a three button mouse might be there if you search the trash properly. no comparison with pi plus power adapter plus usb mouse and keyboard plus case plus hdmi plus tv also thinkpads are dead cheap and you dont even have to look for a 3 button mouse On 12/10/12, erik quanstrom wrote: >> Sadly, I can't buy nanodollars' worth of technology, even though it is >> being discarded daily in the western world by the megadollar. Even >> the RaspberryPI is beyond reach > > if you don't have the money for a raspberry pi, then you can't afford > anything that will boot plan 9. so arguing that adding 1.7% (maybe) > to the size of /bin is an argument for the moot court. and in that > moot court, one could argue that stripping the executables would save > much more than 1.7%. > >> (we can approach western sponsors for >> funding, but that creates a form of slavery that africans are >> understandably reluctant to depend on - our leaders don't mind, but >> some of us have a social conscience). > > i don't know what slavery has got to do with anything. > and i find the comparison to such a horrible crime distasteful. > >> I understand the technological issues more or less well enough. But >> where I stand, I can't ignore the social implications of consuming >> resources as soon as they become available. I can think of a penalty > > since this isn't a social justice list, i'll just address the techncal > assertion. > > it is untrue that consuming an extra 3121 bytes > of storage per executable is consuming resources at the leading edge. > sd storage is sold in big chunks. the smallest sd card i can find is > 256mb. a 1gb sd card is roughly the same price. (and please no quibbling. > we've already established that the pi itself is too expensive) > you will probablly need a 1gb card, as the image alone is nearly 500mb. > > - erik > >