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Mon, 26 Apr 2021 14:20:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:a01e:b029:1b:3549:26b7 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 14:20:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 23:20:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] SFF 9legacy fileserver hardware To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3d345430-a6d5-11eb-8d2d-816c02389b63 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UMDU1ZmY4YzUzMjFhYzZhMi1NYjQ0NTNjMTA0N2NmOWFjZTI4YWZi?= =?UTF-8?B?ZjE5Pg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Mb4453c1047cf9ace28afbf19:1:9X2D2bRF03_MbHz8KvP7Bz-MjD3dlMCH2oyp9wO8_4U btw, here are the exact models we tested: http://fqa.9front.org/fqa3.html#3.2 at subheader 3.2.6.4.1 - ThinkCentre On 4/26/21, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: > sure you want just one sata disk for a fileserver? or is the worm all on > bluray? > > the thinkcentre on my desk here has exactly one nvme and one 2,5" slot > for sata inside. > i'm not sure it has usb2, but we have xhci support in 9front anyway so > that should cover it... > i think you can chose between some used intel (very cheap) and now > also newer ryzen... > > it might be that you'll have to copy some patches into 9legacy first, > there were too many (esp. about xhci) to keep track for me. > > On 4/26/21, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) wrote: >> Time to build out some proper infrastructure at home, and the >> first order of business is the file+auth server. I don't need >> screaming fast performance, just something basic, and I have been >> looking at some of the current crop of small form factor desktops, >> along the lines of the Intel NUC. (But I'm in no way married >> to Intel.) >>=20 >> I'm curious in hearing from anybody ACTUALLY RUNNING on that sort >> of machine. The spec's I'm looking for are pretty minimal: >>=20 >> * amd64 arch. >>=20 >> * a gig-E port I can saturate. >>=20 >> * SATA-II SSD disk (2.5 inch is fine), preferably that will >> max out the SATA interface. PCIe/m.2/whatever is okay, as >> long as it works with the 9legacy kernel, but remember this >> is a file server, so I want to be able to pack a fair number >> of bytes into it, making $$$ an issue for non-SATA storage. >>=20 >> * >=3D 16GB RAM. >>=20 >> * 2 x USB1/2 (for kbd/mouse), USB-3 for external blu-ray writer. >>=20 >> * basic bitmap video (VGA/VESA is fine). >>=20 >> Thanks for any feedback you can give! >>=20 >> --lyndon ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T055ff8c5321ac6a2-Mb4453= c1047cf9ace28afbf19 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription