From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from tb-mx1.topicbox.com (localhost.local [127.0.0.1]) by tb-mx1.topicbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F259BC0149 for <9fans@9fans.net>; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 17:46:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from 23hiro@gmail.com) Received: from tb-mx1.topicbox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tb-mx1.topicbox.com (Authentication Milter) with ESMTP id B01ADEB3B98; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 17:46:26 -0500 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; d=topicbox.com; s=arcseal; t= 1575413186; b=syVXcHqnCylKa6EsraKn0YP9nGOd92YSIOAxIDNlH6QhZhWo9r bosAxGa2O04iSJjgG7a+eVg10q3Gz55OsnFecDWCdwfF/lbsdZ3e0mBtQgFBZsIM mHolUbt0hBq/mYxNbA2hjF2oDUOCWfP1uJoP6r+w/j0wm6xWnzyGdaZM67DY6ww3 5QAMM1jZt1UwlcdTVHv+CDoh29v2eK5mAKi4hVA36BKCNDabq7Ph+BQGxFZ4VgVo 2vZfIEiOmCSEt5sghiNzlzIA523O7cw2O3MnQng6BOybdTxZ3d2cMwA5h1soydQK taCKP3oF+ycYp6UV9pdNXinF3DgK4c+imFCg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= topicbox.com; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; s=arcseal; t=1575413186; bh=7WeNGH6sUmKor7UfQ5xYxU9eKl3lX6w2gSEmM/SRzZs=; b=tlqQYFX60VYM 9TI8v6C5JxAZh2vqnuIPVAzZDctdTEydohy0pz6uag9iL90ZivKPfZEVP1zIEFno 7GsX8IIrGolkQpVLw5P9WSCGQaYKvcTqMpUYO8lbabW6mO9rJW+mtjtWtVsFzKX+ SMBEJUlKv2VlsiQXvcrgXefjDVKHjpn8VuomDZJltlbOl++iIEJ9mWW5GU1gnv2o Fx/wnmkdXioniEn4MTnb2/hT+FarGs2BUtX7YUDV0KTAnV5gUZvROxo2VdL1xdn6 t4W6bswtHb6Fib1i0+xUuQ/LA6R4Fit+eAhMsN0aFEMQ3GsAZkt4gHyQm53MU/VF R28O3UKlVA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; tb-mx1.topicbox.com; arc=none (no signatures found); dkim=pass (2048-bit rsa key sha256) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=WtLHih8h header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20161025 x-bits=2048; dmarc=pass policy.published-domain-policy=none policy.published-subdomain-policy=quarantine policy.applied-disposition=none policy.evaluated-disposition=none (p=none,sp=quarantine,d=none,d.eval=none) policy.policy-from=p header.from=gmail.com; iprev=pass smtp.remote-ip=209.85.221.52 (mail-wr1-f52.google.com); spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=23hiro@gmail.com smtp.helo=mail-wr1-f52.google.com; x-aligned-from=pass (Address match); x-google-dkim=pass (2048-bit rsa key) header.d=1e100.net header.i=@1e100.net header.b=WE5B38lE; x-ptr=pass smtp.helo=mail-wr1-f52.google.com policy.ptr=mail-wr1-f52.google.com; x-return-mx=pass header.domain=gmail.com policy.is_org=yes (MX Record found); x-return-mx=pass smtp.domain=gmail.com policy.is_org=yes (MX Record found); x-tls=pass smtp.version=TLSv1.2 smtp.cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 smtp.bits=256/256; x-vs=clean score=0 state=0 Authentication-Results: tb-mx1.topicbox.com; arc=none (no signatures found); dkim=pass (2048-bit rsa key sha256) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=WtLHih8h header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20161025 x-bits=2048; dmarc=pass policy.published-domain-policy=none policy.published-subdomain-policy=quarantine policy.applied-disposition=none policy.evaluated-disposition=none (p=none,sp=quarantine,d=none,d.eval=none) policy.policy-from=p header.from=gmail.com; iprev=pass smtp.remote-ip=209.85.221.52 (mail-wr1-f52.google.com); spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=23hiro@gmail.com smtp.helo=mail-wr1-f52.google.com; x-aligned-from=pass (Address match); x-google-dkim=pass (2048-bit rsa key) header.d=1e100.net header.i=@1e100.net header.b=WE5B38lE; x-ptr=pass smtp.helo=mail-wr1-f52.google.com policy.ptr=mail-wr1-f52.google.com; x-return-mx=pass header.domain=gmail.com policy.is_org=yes (MX Record found); x-return-mx=pass smtp.domain=gmail.com policy.is_org=yes (MX Record found); x-tls=pass smtp.version=TLSv1.2 smtp.cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 smtp.bits=256/256; x-vs=clean score=0 state=0 X-ME-VSCause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrudejkedgtdduucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfu rfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpegjfhfhff fkuffvtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhephhhirhhouceovdefhhhirhhosehgmhgr ihhlrdgtohhmqeenucfkphepvddtledrkeehrddvvddurdehvdenucfrrghrrghmpehinh gvthepvddtledrkeehrddvvddurdehvddphhgvlhhopehmrghilhdqfihruddqfhehvddr ghhoohhglhgvrdgtohhmpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepoedvfehhihhrohesghhmrghilhdrtg homhequcfukfgkgfepvdeljeeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-ME-VSCategory: clean Received-SPF: pass (gmail.com ... _spf.google.com: Sender is authorized to use '23hiro@gmail.com' in 'mfrom' identity (mechanism 'include:_netblocks.google.com' matched)) receiver=tb-mx1.topicbox.com; identity=mailfrom; envelope-from="23hiro@gmail.com"; helo=mail-wr1-f52.google.com; client-ip=209.85.221.52 Received: from mail-wr1-f52.google.com (mail-wr1-f52.google.com [209.85.221.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tb-mx1.topicbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS for <9fans@9fans.net>; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 17:46:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from 23hiro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-f52.google.com with SMTP id z7so5931138wrl.13 for <9fans@9fans.net>; Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:46:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=7WeNGH6sUmKor7UfQ5xYxU9eKl3lX6w2gSEmM/SRzZs=; b=WtLHih8hlsjTEGJm09PAKnyvK/9tbGQlU1lEhq/+U++mJ/8GIcnoH8Qdl41+9tGpnF svqcT45N0CZh6jd9iYljYp5FpDbyPplC6psCHaj0xZT4nr50eUTCIW+wZl2J9ajeiRgV eRIvtH9s5HfEpGuzyAdegdewP8hHIhHe7wh9vzXk1s+sEDG1YgiEzhuokhgCHzgcy8iT OkiHwIErlQHqAdr9oOLabBCs+yn1OIVdxJLXqnBke3verhZv1GItWGaQCdRjUex6YqFU C/2I8G8lctV7t0156imvtvIiOuDxmwqdDgEvPd1rucyUb8ORD1XZwUq+lWvvtv7ALTuP k0TQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=7WeNGH6sUmKor7UfQ5xYxU9eKl3lX6w2gSEmM/SRzZs=; b=WE5B38lES/sFiR7rfTeiYMeJ9xJ5lmqUwNRooV16bL4tq9/Y5HBdu14+VIW838v96H b/L1edZAqSl9Sc1+3nsMH93FQp6Rf2VTbWmbdIKc+vJkzDsoZaJHScWWDLr0NyTHB3g2 7nN80wSsN3gsMvLuuUTwzoK6FVid8r5JSKKTOtUbLtasB81396rWd/ubyp16JHeg58DN tZNQ9yC9hrD3bEaYd1JGOQlgNmMEuMQ+o0BnxG6GGrC4eqoi2gBM2Ulndj3njxzJuo+l 17h2hlnGzPBF25kOaXHvuf4RrzBfJYqy7yh+dQWO8QgcmvYLpudjnXBJrjgKbVte0OD3 p08g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVbVV6wM4APokPJT6FgO0ljog4SAkyPT3o4RzT+6nU8I6/j42gc ALzxc5D5X5jm309rrukhIPWL+kr2T/at5rRso2voIw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwexSRJ0drMfNvKNHAYaDnOai4lC9KzWlezAGia1ClrOMh0ce3gn5jAm0cSe3uNVIshiUobYSODsT5MDdNnzXI= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f88c:: with SMTP id u12mr427319wrp.323.1575413184648; Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:46:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a05:6000:108f:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 14:46:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <44792EDCAD53B59A32413A0FFD52CA02@eigenstate.org> <52366c2a6ccc545fc29dbabbf82b5a6c@hamnavoe.com> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 22:46:23 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] upgrading the 9legacy shell (was: Gmail vs Upas) To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: bf578b6a-161e-11ea-bcfd-e7191b94b9b9 in your words it would be an insult, no? seriously, i hear only complaints here, meanwhile 9front is doing just fine. you are deciding against it for non-technical reasons (or probably misunderstandings).