From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:54:25 +1000 Message-ID: From: Prof Brucee To: 9fans@9fans.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113dc334b89f33051b96f567 Subject: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6185df16-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a113dc334b89f33051b96f567 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I realize that it is pretty much required form in this forum to avoid criticizing Linux. (What is the point? Get on with you own hobbies. etc.). I would like to ask a very open question: has Linux with the release of 4.0 finally jumped the shark. My experience has been sticking to wearing an old shoe (aging Ubuntu box in the corner, rarely used and gathering dust). But now I see what *marvels* have been released on the general populace and recognize the double episodes and celebrity appearances. So I raise the question. Thanks for your time, brucee --001a113dc334b89f33051b96f567 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I realize that it is pretty much required form in this for= um to avoid criticizing Linux. (What is the point? Get on with you own hobb= ies. etc.). I would like to ask a very open question: has Linux with the re= lease of 4.0 finally jumped the shark. My experience has been sticking to w= earing an old shoe (aging Ubuntu box in the corner, rarely used and gatheri= ng dust). But now I see what *marvels* have been released on the general po= pulace and recognize the double episodes and celebrity appearances. So I ra= ise the question.

Thanks for your time,

brucee
--001a113dc334b89f33051b96f567-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <5e133e469437a1cd3d728f611006ab38@felloff.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 06:49:36 +0200 From: cinap_lenrek@felloff.net To: 9fans@9fans.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6189937c-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 http://9front.org/img/pjwshark.png -- cinap From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5e133e469437a1cd3d728f611006ab38@felloff.net> References: <5e133e469437a1cd3d728f611006ab38@felloff.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:10:12 +1000 Message-ID: From: Prof Brucee To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0118370ac14ad4051b980405 Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 618d2f1e-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --089e0118370ac14ad4051b980405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You are not helping at all. We know that Peter has done *everything*. brucee On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:49 PM, wrote: > http://9front.org/img/pjwshark.png > > -- > cinap > > --089e0118370ac14ad4051b980405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You are not helping at all. We know that Peter has done *e= verything*.

brucee

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:49 PM, <= cinap_lenrek@felloff.net> wrote:
http://9front.org/img/pjwshark.png

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--089e0118370ac14ad4051b980405-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5e133e469437a1cd3d728f611006ab38@felloff.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 06:05:25 -0300 Message-ID: From: Tiago Natel To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c261a2f6bc28051b9b4dc9 Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6191491e-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a11c261a2f6bc28051b9b4dc9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Make a random commit and call it 4.0? Yes, I think that it jumped the shark as well as all competitors (BSD. win, osx). But unfortunate we don't have any other good production-ready choice at the moment. My hope is that someone is hard working on a new better tech for the next 20 years. But I know that this is pretty much utopia. Some company will introduce an old shit idea, call it 'new', make a lot of money and fuck ours next 20 years of software... []'s i4k Em 24/07/2015 02:10, "Prof Brucee" escreveu: > You are not helping at all. We know that Peter has done *everything*. > > brucee > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:49 PM, wrote: > >> http://9front.org/img/pjwshark.png >> >> -- >> cinap >> >> > --001a11c261a2f6bc28051b9b4dc9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Make a random commit and call it 4.0? Yes, = I think that it jumped the shark as well as all competitors (BSD. win, osx)= . But unfortunate we don't have any other good production-ready choice = at the moment.

My hope is that someone is hard working on a new = better tech for the next 20 years.=C2=A0 But I know that this is pretty muc= h utopia. Some company will introduce an old shit idea, call it 'new= 9;, make a lot of money and fuck ours next 20 years of software...

<= p>[]'s

i4k

Em 24/07/2015 02:10,= "Prof Brucee" <prof.brucee@gmail.com> escreveu:
You ar= e not helping at all. We know that Peter has done *everything*.

brucee

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:49 PM, <cinap_lenrek@felloff.ne= t> wrote:
http://9front.org/img/pjwshark.png

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cinap


--001a11c261a2f6bc28051b9b4dc9-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5e133e469437a1cd3d728f611006ab38@felloff.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 19:27:09 +1000 Message-ID: From: Prof Brucee To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1d652b55a3f051b9b9baf Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6195343e-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a11c1d652b55a3f051b9b9baf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I sent a message to this list a short while ago suggesting that interested parties contact me about my startup. Sorry if it was too cryptic. Consider the message decrypted. brucee On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Tiago Natel wrote: > Make a random commit and call it 4.0? Yes, I think that it jumped the > shark as well as all competitors (BSD. win, osx). But unfortunate we don't > have any other good production-ready choice at the moment. > > My hope is that someone is hard working on a new better tech for the next > 20 years. But I know that this is pretty much utopia. Some company will > introduce an old shit idea, call it 'new', make a lot of money and fuck > ours next 20 years of software... > > []'s > > i4k > Em 24/07/2015 02:10, "Prof Brucee" escreveu: > >> You are not helping at all. We know that Peter has done *everything*. >> >> brucee >> >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:49 PM, wrote: >> >>> http://9front.org/img/pjwshark.png >>> >>> -- >>> cinap >>> >>> >> --001a11c1d652b55a3f051b9b9baf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I sent a message to this list a short while ago suggesting= that interested parties contact me about my startup. Sorry if it was too c= ryptic. Consider the message decrypted.

brucee

On Fri, Jul 24,= 2015 at 7:05 PM, Tiago Natel <tiago.natel@neoway.com.br> wrote:

Make a random commit and call it 4.0? Yes, I think that it jumped the s= hark as well as all competitors (BSD. win, osx). But unfortunate we don'= ;t have any other good production-ready choice at the moment.

My= hope is that someone is hard working on a new better tech for the next 20 = years.=C2=A0 But I know that this is pretty much utopia. Some company will = introduce an old shit idea, call it 'new', make a lot of money and = fuck ours next 20 years of software...

[]'s

i4k

=
Em 24/07/2015 02:10, &quo= t;Prof Brucee" <prof.brucee@gmail.com> escreveu:
You are not= helping at all. We know that Peter has done *everything*.

brucee

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:49 PM, <cinap_lenrek@felloff.net= > wrote:
http://9front.org/img/pjwshark.png

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cinap



--001a11c1d652b55a3f051b9b9baf-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: To: <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 12:25:15 +0200 From: Ingo Krabbe In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6199b464-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 I don't think that anyone on this list really got what you want/-ed. At least I didn't. But maybe I already jumped the shark too. Regards ingo > I sent a message to this list a short while ago suggesting that interested > parties contact me about my startup. Sorry if it was too cryptic. Consider > the message decrypted. > > brucee > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Tiago Natel > wrote: > >> Make a random commit and call it 4.0? Yes, I think that it jumped the >> shark as well as all competitors (BSD. win, osx). But unfortunate we don't >> have any other good production-ready choice at the moment. >> >> My hope is that someone is hard working on a new better tech for the next >> 20 years. But I know that this is pretty much utopia. Some company will >> introduce an old shit idea, call it 'new', make a lot of money and fuck >> ours next 20 years of software... >> >> []'s >> >> i4k >> Em 24/07/2015 02:10, "Prof Brucee" escreveu: >> >>> You are not helping at all. We know that Peter has done *everything*. >>> >>> brucee >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:49 PM, wrote: >>> >>>> http://9front.org/img/pjwshark.png >>>> >>>> -- >>>> cinap >>>> >>>> >>> From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 12:08:00 +0100 Message-ID: From: Charles Forsyth To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0160aa485f7786051b9d0428 Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 61a5545e-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --089e0160aa485f7786051b9d0428 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 24 July 2015 at 04:54, Prof Brucee wrote: > has Linux with the release of 4.0 finally jumped the shark. Since it's called "Hurr Durr I'ma Sheep", I thought I'd ask a celebrity what he thought of it. The response was much as I'd expected: http://goo.gl/ZefDFV Others simply said that "it was baaad". I'm amused that as usual, dynamic patching of kernel source, like replacing dynamic libraries, is presented uniformly as a way to fix bugs everywhere quickly, because we all know that bugs always are fixed and never introduced, and being able to capture a kernel without rebooting is never of practical interest. --089e0160aa485f7786051b9d0428 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On 24 July 2015 at 04:54, Prof Brucee <prof.brucee@gmail.com> wrote:
has Linux with the release o= f 4.0 finally jumped the shark.

Since it's called "Hurr Durr I'ma Sheep", I = thought I'd ask a celebrity what he thought of it.
The response was much as I'd expected: http://goo.gl/ZefDFV
Others simply said that "it w= as baaad".

I'm amused that as usual, dynamic patching of kernel source, = like replacing dynamic libraries, is presented uniformly as a way to fix bu= gs everywhere quickly, because we all know that bugs always are fixed and n= ever introduced, and being able to capture a kernel without rebooting is ne= ver of practical interest.
--089e0160aa485f7786051b9d0428-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: To: <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:19:13 +0200 From: Ingo Krabbe In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-hhhjjhourmtcqnfcszlfwloelh" Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 61a99c30-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --upas-hhhjjhourmtcqnfcszlfwloelh Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually not all bugs are fixed, some are introduced as a feature http://intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/games/credits/space.html#hawk > On 24 July 2015 at 04:54, Prof Brucee wrote: > >> has Linux with the release of 4.0 finally jumped the shark. > > > Since it's called "Hurr Durr I'ma Sheep", I thought I'd ask a celebrity > what he thought of it. > The response was much as I'd expected: http://goo.gl/ZefDFV > Others simply said that "it was baaad". > > I'm amused that as usual, dynamic patching of kernel source, like replacing > dynamic libraries, is presented uniformly as a way to fix bugs everywhere > quickly, because we all know that bugs always are fixed and never > introduced, and being able to capture a kernel without rebooting is never > of practical interest. 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Topicbox-Message-UUID: 61b1e048-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a113cefca5f707c051b9dd393 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Look what I started. And All That Clever Code ... Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. =E2=80=94 Brian W. Kernighan and P. J. Plauger in *The Elements of Programming Style* . On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Ingo Krabbe wrote: > Actually not all bugs are fixed, some are introduced as a feature > > http://intellivisionlives.com/bluesky/games/credits/space.html#hawk > > > > On 24 July 2015 at 04:54, Prof Brucee wrote: > > > >> has Linux with the release of 4.0 finally jumped the shark. > > > > > > Since it's called "Hurr Durr I'ma Sheep", I thought I'd ask a celebrity > > what he thought of it. > > The response was much as I'd expected: http://goo.gl/ZefDFV > > Others simply said that "it was baaad". > > > > I'm amused that as usual, dynamic patching of kernel source, like > replacing > > dynamic libraries, is presented uniformly as a way to fix bugs everywhe= re > > quickly, because we all know that bugs always are fixed and never > > introduced, and being able to capture a kernel without rebooting is nev= er > > of practical interest. > --001a113cefca5f707c051b9dd393 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Look what I started. And All That Clever Code ...

Debugging is twice as hard as writing the = code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as po= ssible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=E2=80=94=C2=A0Brian W. Kernighan=C2=A0and P. J. Plauger in=C2=A0The Elements of Programming Style.


On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 = at 9:19 PM, Ingo Krabbe <ikrabbe.ask@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually not all bugs are fixed, some are = introduced as a feature

http://intellivisionlives.com/blu= esky/games/credits/space.html#hawk


> On 24 July 2015 at 04:54, Prof Brucee <prof.brucee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> has Linux with the release of 4.0 finally jumped the shark.
>
>
> Since it's called "Hurr Durr I'ma Sheep", I thought = I'd ask a celebrity
> what he thought of it.
> The response was much as I'd expected: http://goo.gl/ZefDFV
> Others simply said that= "it was baaad".
>
> I'm amused that as usual, dynamic patching of kernel source, like = replacing
> dynamic libraries, is presented uniformly as a way to fix bugs everywh= ere
> quickly, because we all know that bugs always are fixed and never
> introduced, and being able to capture a kernel without rebooting is ne= ver
> of practical interest.

--001a113cefca5f707c051b9dd393-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: To: <9fans@9fans.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:13:09 +0200 From: Ingo Krabbe In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 61b8b120-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > Look what I started. And All That Clever Code ... Maybe I'm dumb but, where should I look at "all that clever code" and the things you "started"? From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:34:58 +1000 Message-ID: From: Prof Brucee To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0118370a5a906a051b9e3b1d Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 61cf2c16-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --089e0118370a5a906a051b9e3b1d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I started this thread. And all that clever code is being dynamically replaced as we speak. brucee On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Ingo Krabbe wrote: > > Look what I started. And All That Clever Code ... > > Maybe I'm dumb but, where should I look at "all that clever code" and the > things you "started"? > > > > --089e0118370a5a906a051b9e3b1d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I started this thread. And all that clever code is being d= ynamically replaced as we speak.

brucee

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 a= t 10:13 PM, Ingo Krabbe <ikrabbe.ask@gmail.com> wrote:
> Look what I started.= And All That Clever Code ...

Maybe I'm dumb but, where should I look at "all that clever= code" and the things you "started"?




--089e0118370a5a906a051b9e3b1d-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: erik quanstrom Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 06:07:28 -0700 To: 9fans@9fans.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <5e133e469437a1cd3d728f611006ab38@felloff.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 61d4a83a-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 On Thu Jul 23 22:12:56 PDT 2015, prof.brucee@gmail.com wrote: > You are not helping at all. We know that Peter has done *everything*. > > brucee > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:49 PM, wrote: > > > http://9front.org/img/pjwshark.png so it's peter. the most interesting man in the world. - erik From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:08:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Devon H. O'Dell" To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 61da8d9a-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 2015-07-24 5:05 GMT-07:00 Prof Brucee : > Look what I started. And All That Clever Code ... > > Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. > Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by > definition, not smart enough to debug it. > > =E2=80=94 Brian W. Kernighan and P. J. Plauger in The Elements of > Programming Style. Sigh. The proper text is: "Everyone knows that debugging is twice as hard as writing a program in the first place. So if you're as clever as you can be when you write it, how will you ever debug it?" This particular text comes from bwk directly. It's possible that he said something similar to the oft-misquoted version in a presentation he was giving around the same time as the book's publication, but there is no source material to verify and bwk doesn't remember given that this would have been over 40 years ago. (Source: I emailed bwk and pjp about this recently.) --dho From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: To: 9fans@9fans.net Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:09:30 -0700 From: Skip Tavakkolian <9nut@9netics.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 61e031b4-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 > I would like to ask a very open question: has Linux with the release of 4.0 > finally jumped the shark. i had to go look. dynamic core patching... how retro?!! From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 19:52:55 +0100 Message-ID: From: Charles Forsyth To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c37be00a94fd051ba3839c Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 61e5b08a-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a11c37be00a94fd051ba3839c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 24 July 2015 at 18:08, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > doesn't remember given > that this would have been over 40 years ago. > But POSIX remembers and indeed insists on minutiae from 40 years ago! --001a11c37be00a94fd051ba3839c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On 24 July 2015 at 18:08, Devon H. O'Dell <devon.odell@gmail.com> wrote:
doesn't remember given
that this would have been over 40 years ago.

B= ut POSIX remembers and indeed insists on minutiae from 40 years ago!
<= /div> --001a11c37be00a94fd051ba3839c-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 12:20:20 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Devon H. O'Dell" To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 61f7d01c-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 2015-07-24 11:52 GMT-07:00 Charles Forsyth : > > On 24 July 2015 at 18:08, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: >> >> doesn't remember given >> that this would have been over 40 years ago. > > > But POSIX remembers and indeed insists on minutiae from 40 years ago! If only we could all be more like POSIX. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 21:26:56 +0100 Message-ID: From: Charles Forsyth To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c37be04afa7c051ba4d3c2 Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 62010a60-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a11c37be04afa7c051ba4d3c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 24 July 2015 at 20:20, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > > But POSIX remembers and indeed insists on minutiae from 40 years ago! > > If only we could all be more like POSIX. I didn't mean it as a good thing. --001a11c37be04afa7c051ba4d3c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --001a11c37be04afa7c051ba4d3c2-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 06:38:31 +1000 Message-ID: From: Prof Brucee To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113dc334b00553051ba4fccd Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 62052226-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a113dc334b00553051ba4fccd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I just quoted cat-v - shoot me. brucee On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 5:20 AM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > 2015-07-24 11:52 GMT-07:00 Charles Forsyth : > > > > On 24 July 2015 at 18:08, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > >> > >> doesn't remember given > >> that this would have been over 40 years ago. > > > > > > But POSIX remembers and indeed insists on minutiae from 40 years ago! > > If only we could all be more like POSIX. > > --001a113dc334b00553051ba4fccd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just quoted cat-v - shoot me.

brucee<= /div>

On Sat= , Jul 25, 2015 at 5:20 AM, Devon H. O'Dell <devon.odell@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
2015-07-24 11:52 GM= T-07:00 Charles Forsyth <ch= arles.forsyth@gmail.com>:
>
> On 24 July 2015 at 18:08, Devon H. O'Dell <devon.odell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> doesn't remember given
>> that this would have been over 40 years ago.
>
>
> But POSIX remembers and indeed insists on minutiae from 40 years ago!<= br>
If only we could all be more like POSIX.


--001a113dc334b00553051ba4fccd-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:57:45 +0000 Message-ID: <20150724205745.Horde.RI3y0DwCA_SXbm6IGyyE4Ab@ssl.eumx.net> From: Kurt H Maier To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 620959cc-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Quoting Prof Brucee : > I just quoted cat-v - shoot me. ONE OF US From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150724205745.Horde.RI3y0DwCA_SXbm6IGyyE4Ab@ssl.eumx.net> References: <20150724205745.Horde.RI3y0DwCA_SXbm6IGyyE4Ab@ssl.eumx.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 12:25:06 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?QmVuY2UgRsOhYmnDoW4=?= To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bb03d7ed03102051bb088a1 Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 623906e0-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --047d7bb03d7ed03102051bb088a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 this thread is of much relevance. made me come out of hiding from SP9SSS 2015-07-24 22:57 GMT+02:00 Kurt H Maier : > Quoting Prof Brucee : > > I just quoted cat-v - shoot me. >> > > > ONE OF US > > > --047d7bb03d7ed03102051bb088a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
this thread is of much relevance. made me come out of hidi= ng from SP9SSS

2015-07-24 22:57 GMT+02:00 Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net>:
Quoting Prof Brucee <prof.brucee@gmail.= com>:

I just quoted cat-v - shoot me.


 ONE OF US



--047d7bb03d7ed03102051bb088a1-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20150724205745.Horde.RI3y0DwCA_SXbm6IGyyE4Ab@ssl.eumx.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:31:48 +0200 Message-ID: From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark? Topicbox-Message-UUID: 623d6ca8-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Are you referring to Harvey Linux?