From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <87C61423-7C13-4516-88B5-C2ABA7D32AA9@me.com> <20150508211922.1118FB82A@mail.bitblocks.com> Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 10:30:07 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Devon H. O'Dell" To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [9fans] fossil+venti performance question Topicbox-Message-UUID: 50884b36-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 2015-05-09 10:25 GMT-07:00 Lyndon Nerenberg : > > > On May 9, 2015, at 7:43 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > easy enough until one encounters devices that don't send icmp > > responses because it's not implemented, or somehow considered > > "secure" that way. > > Oddly enough, I don't see this 'problem' in the real world. And FreeBSD = is far from being alone in the always-set-DF bit. > > The only place this bites is when you run into tiny shops with homegrown = firewalls configured by people who don't understand networking or security.= Me, I consider it a feature that these sites self-select themselves off t= he network. I'm certainly no worse off for not being able to talk to them. Or when your client is on a cell phone. Cell networks are the worst.