From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20160831034806.GB19159@wopr> <957d9161a8fd44eb4411d5bf173ae80b@9netics.com> <20160831064010.GE19159@wopr> <97b4156d-9350-42c2-a573-3a6fe0ea80e9@email.android.com> <72f15b81-8550-44f7-9823-87100bd68978@email.android.com> From: Winston Kodogo Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 11:01:31 +1200 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c113d10e439f6053b7a310b Subject: Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive Topicbox-Message-UUID: 9b3e47f2-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --94eb2c113d10e439f6053b7a310b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 "Unless you count mobile devices, UIs in 2016 still function largely like Windows 95." Oddly, that's not true. Mind you, I've always been a Mac user. But I've recently been spending some time in Excel VBA under Windows 10, and the interface in the editor is still pure Windows 95,and boy does it ever show. But yeah, the ribbon is a disaster. To the extent that people make money selling add-ins to restore the classic menus. On 1 September 2016 at 19:54, Julius Schmidt wrote: > Personally, I don't use Plan9, or even p9p, to get stuff done. I just like >> to look at the code from time to time. I'm with Carmack on Plan9 circa >> 1997: >> " It has an achingly elegant internal structure, but a user interface that >> has been asleep for the past decade." Add a couple of decades to that. >> > > Two more decades of what? > > Unless you count mobile devices, UIs in 2016 still function largely like > Windows 95. > Incremental improvements, but no major innovations. > Some bad mistakes (ribbons...). > > The best part is web interfaces, which continue to poorly imitate what > Win95 could do 20 years ago. > > I'd rather stick to rio. > > aiju > > --94eb2c113d10e439f6053b7a310b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"Unless you count mobile devices, UIs in 20= 16 still function largely like
Windows 95."

Oddly, that's not true. Mind you, I'= ve always been a Mac user. But I've recently been spending some time in= Excel VBA under Windows 10, and the interface in the editor is still pure = Windows 95,and boy does it ever show.

But yeah, the ribbon is = a disaster. To the extent that people make money selling add-ins to restore= the classic menus.

On 1 September 2016 at 19:54, Julius Schmidt = <aiju@phicode.de> wrote:
Personally, I don't use Plan9, or even p9p, to get stuff done. I just l= ike
to look at the code from time to time. I'm with Carmack on Plan9 circa = 1997:
" It has an achingly elegant internal structure, but a user interface = that
has been asleep for the past decade." Add a couple of decades to that.=

Two more decades of what?

Unless you count mobile devices, UIs in 2016 still function largely like Windows 95.
Incremental improvements, but no major innovations.
Some bad mistakes (ribbons...).

The best part is web interfaces, which continue to poorly imitate what
Win95 could do 20 years ago.

I'd rather stick to rio.

aiju


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