Re: [9fans] Re: Time for 9? :-)

[Thaddeus Woskowiak <tswoskowiak@gmail.com>]

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I recently found out about this company: https://ploopy.co who offers a
mouse with 8 programmable buttons and a wheel. I have their Adept track
ball which works quite well.

On Thu, Feb 5, 2026, 2:10 PM hahahahacker2009 <hahahahacker2009@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Vào 09:55, T.5, 5 Th2, 2026 Frank D. Engel, Jr. <fde101@fjrhome.net> đã
> viết:
>
>> Most mice with scroll wheels will produce a middle mouse click when you
>> press down the scroll wheel.
>>
>
> it is painful. better buy a real 3 button mouse.
> I don't know about Europe, I bought one from hao1885.com, works well with
> plan 9
>
>>
>> On 2/4/26 05:09, Adrian wrote:
>>
>>
>> Make it easy on yourself and start with plan9port, no special hardware
>> needed, and you can shift right click or something to simulate a middle
>> click.
>>
>>
>> On January 28, 2026 8:21:17 PM EST, Michael Jensen
>> <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ..4 months and counting.. ..gotta be some kind of record..
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 8:19 PM Michael Jensen <
>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Still trying to install it.  I've been exploring hardware solutions,
>>>> have now moved on to qemu.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 9:08 AM Michael Jensen <
>>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Computer on which the 3-button mouse doesn't work is the same one
>>>>> I already submitted data for.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 9:07 AM Michael Jensen <
>>>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I have got to the point where, in principle, I am willing to
>>>>>> learn how to use plan9/9front using a live session.  I have tried
>>>>>> installing it to a usb-key and got an error that is probably solvable.  I
>>>>>> also have another "ssd" coming in in a week or so that might work.  The
>>>>>> main issue is that the 3-button mouse I got does not work.  I've known this
>>>>>> for a while, at first it didn't bug me overly.  Now, facing the plunge, I'm
>>>>>> not so sure I want to deal with the irritation of hardware that isn't
>>>>>> designed for the os in question.  So.. are adopters of this system really
>>>>>> supposed to be up to the level of solving such problems on their own?  I'm
>>>>>> willing, and indeed enthusiastic, about writing most of my own code, using
>>>>>> public code as inspiration, but solving mouse-driver issues?  I'm already
>>>>>> taking criticism for pushing as far as openbsd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2025 at 2:13 PM Michael Jensen <
>>>>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have now tried installing 9legacy.  To see if it would work any
>>>>>>> better.  On the 3 computers I have that are currently working.  You might
>>>>>>> be happy to know that it worked less well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 7:04 PM Michael Jensen <
>>>>>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the record, I have not yet succeeded, but am still trying, in a
>>>>>>>> manner of speaking.  Investigating running it in qemu, or using plan9port.
>>>>>>>> A tech friend of mine will probably help eventually, if he doesn't succeed,
>>>>>>>> he will probably generate info that might help with the diagnosis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, I am looking into framework laptops, and have now found
>>>>>>>> something called the reform.  Somebody claims that is what most 9front
>>>>>>>> people use?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://community.frame.work/t/plan9-9front-on-framework/13991/2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Is there one, framework or reform that is more recommended?
>>>>>>>> Strongly?  Weekly?  For 9front? 9legacy?  I ask, not knowing how often the
>>>>>>>> FQA is updated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 8:35 PM Michael Jensen <
>>>>>>>> mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ..what?  I do not understand.  In all the tests I just did, for
>>>>>>>>> each computer (I did not test the T420), I did at least one test where the
>>>>>>>>> ordinary Sata drive was not there, so the only "memory" that could be seen
>>>>>>>>> was either the mSata, the boot medium, or ram.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok, this is very strange.. I am trying again on the T430, which
>>>>>>>>> happens to have both the mSata and it's ordinary Sata, (coincidence), both
>>>>>>>>> register, but it looks like I now have -two- /data options.  /dev/sdE0/data
>>>>>>>>> and /dev/sdE2/data.  As for  your suggestion, I have tried accepting the
>>>>>>>>> default, which is [], or nothing, and.. same thing.  Infinite loop.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ..repeating  the test, with the Sata out, I get the same thing,
>>>>>>>>> (infinite loop), except that there is now only one /dev/sdE1/data, with a
>>>>>>>>> 1, not 2 or 0.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 6:24 PM <ori@eigenstate.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Quoth Michael Jensen <mikethe1wheelnut@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> > > Well, I've now done about all I can at this end.  As I
>>>>>>>>>> suddenly suspected
>>>>>>>>>> > > right before the test, connecting an msata drive to the
>>>>>>>>>> computer via an
>>>>>>>>>> > > msata-sata adaptor didn't work.  It still looks like a sata.
>>>>>>>>>> I assume.
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > I how have the msata in the T430, and it is at least
>>>>>>>>>> recognized.  Which
>>>>>>>>>> > > shows that at least -something- is working.  However,
>>>>>>>>>> selecting the boot
>>>>>>>>>> > > drive still fails, same as before, asking again and again, an
>>>>>>>>>> infinite
>>>>>>>>>> > > loop.  In theory I could do the same test with the T420,
>>>>>>>>>> but.. why would
>>>>>>>>>> > > the results be different?
>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>> > > I can still try the test with this computer, the 7440.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hve you tried *not* selecting the first drive?
>>>>>>>>>>
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