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charset="UTF-8" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: f9be3c6a-17ec-11eb-aae6-e4e02116d28c On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 10:11 PM Wes Kussmaul wrote: > > Lucio's concern was about commercial enterprises bending Internet norms > to serve their bottom line at the expense of interoperation. > > Imagine if the physical city where you live allowed building codes to be > proprietary, and instead of public professional licensing of architects, > contractors, structural engineers and building inspectors you had > certification programs of those commercial enterprises. > > Instead, habitability of physical buildings is determined by building > codes and professional licensing that are the product of participatory > and duly constituted public authority. > > That's the role that Osmio sets out to play in non-physical digital > indoor spaces. > > > On 10/24/20 6:48 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > It's a virtual city in Switzerland, which is famously neutral (hence > > Geneva as location for various international organisations, and indeed > > as a setting for several TV series) > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 11:23 PM > > wrote: > > > > Wes Kussmaul writes: > > > > > On 10/7/20 12:08 AM, Lucio De Re wrote: > > >> my situation is getting > > >> more difficult as norms on the Internet are being bent by service > > >> provider that care for their profitability much more than for > > >> interoperation > > > > > > I suggest taking a look at https://www.osmio.ch/ > > > > I don't get it. 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The integrity and security of this message cannot be assured > unless it is digitally signed by the PEN of an identity certificate with > an IDQA score that is sufficient for your purposes. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > 9fans: 9fans > Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T4e8db4c94a81d90f-Me25c01fcc7e2ebd901dbe7b8 > Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription I believe the issue here is that some people have interpreted your osmio.ch suggestion as a solution to Lucio's DNS issues.