Hope that helps !=C2=A0 It's where I launched my research from.<=
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blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Mostly a lurker so far, bu=
t wanted to try the actual system rather than plan9port.=C2=A0 But sometime=
s getting actual hardware up an running is a steep first step :-)
Does anyone know of a virtual machine running on current Mac OS that hosts =
plan9?=C2=A0 Preferably one that isn=E2=80=99t too difficult to set up=E2=
=80=A6.
Also, I=E2=80=99m a little unclear on what the advantages/disadvantages of =
the various forks of plan9 are best on, their audience, etc. And it seems s=
omewhat difficult to determine where to find the code for the different for=
ks. Most likely I=E2=80=99m just not paying attention=E2=80=A6.
I do have a pi 4 but probably not the one with the wall wart fix. Is Mr. Mi=
ller=E2=80=99s code all in one place? Where is it publicly available?
Is there some repository for add-on file systems ala 9P2000 in one place. I=
f not the actual code, perhaps pointers to the actual repositories.
Sorry if it appears that I=E2=80=99m not digging in to find this informatio=
n myself, but I can=E2=80=99t seem to find the end of the string to pull=E2=
=80=A6
Thanks in advance.
Lurker Mark
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On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:32 AM, Mark Everett wrote:
>=20
> Does anyone know of a virtual machine running on current Mac OS that =
hosts plan9? Preferably one that isn=E2=80=99t too difficult to set =
up=E2=80=A6.
Hi Mark,
I run both 9front and 9legacy on macOS with Qemu. The installation of =
qemu 4.2.0 was a breeze via Homebrew:
Mac % brew install qemu
The Plan 9 file server VM boots off a virtual disk image that has 9fat, =
nvram, and fossil. I launch it with the following command:
Mac % cd $HOME/plan9/fs &&
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 512 -name 'file server' \
-nographic \
-no-reboot \
-drive 'if=3Dnone,id=3Dhd,file=3Dfossil.raw,format=3Draw' \
-device 'virtio-scsi-pci,id=3Dscsi' -device 'scsi-hd,drive=3Dhd' \
-device virtio-net-pci,netdev=3Dn0,mac=3D52:54:00:09:09:02 \
-netdev user,id=3Dn0,hostfwd=3Dtcp::564-:564
The Plan 9 terminal boots directly off a 9front kernel supplied on the =
command line. I launch the VM with this command:
Mac % cd $HOME/plan9/terminal &&
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 -kernel 9pc64 -initrd plan9.ini \
-name terminal \
-no-reboot \
-device virtio-net-pci,netdev=3Dn0,mac=3D52:54:00:09:09:09 \
-netdev user,id=3Dn0,hostfwd=3Dtcp::8080-:80 2>&1 | grep -v 'multiboot =
knows VBE'
I was testing a simple web server written in Go on the terminal and =
that=E2=80=99s why I am forwarding tcp port 8080 into it.=20
It took quite a lot of iterations to get these commands right. Hope this =
helps.
Kim
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On =
Mar 25, 2020, at 3:32 AM, Mark Everett <everettm@gmail.com> =
wrote:
Does anyone know of a virtual =
machine running on current Mac OS that hosts plan9? Preferably one =
that isn=E2=80=99t too difficult to set up=E2=80=A6.
Hi =
Mark,
I run =
both 9front and 9legacy on macOS with Qemu. The installation of qemu =
4.2.0 was a breeze via Homebrew:
Mac % brew install qemu
The Plan 9 file server =
VM boots off a virtual disk image that has 9fat, nvram, and fossil. I =
launch it with the following command:
Mac % =
cd $HOME/plan9/fs &&
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 512 -name 'file server' =
\
-nographic \
-no-reboot \
-drive =
'if=3Dnone,id=3Dhd,file=3Dfossil.raw,format=3Draw' \
-device 'virtio-scsi-pci,id=3Dscsi' =
-device 'scsi-hd,drive=3Dhd' \
-device =
virtio-net-pci,netdev=3Dn0,mac=3D52:54:00:09:09:02 \
-netdev =
user,id=3Dn0,hostfwd=3Dtcp::564-:564
The Plan 9 =
terminal boots directly off a 9front kernel supplied on the command =
line. I launch the VM with this command:
Mac % =
cd $HOME/plan9/terminal &&
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 -kernel 9pc64 -initrd plan9.ini =
\
-name =
terminal \
-no-reboot \
-device =
virtio-net-pci,netdev=3Dn0,mac=3D52:54:00:09:09:09 \
-netdev user,id=3Dn0,hostfwd=3Dtcp::8080-:=
80 2>&1 | grep -v 'multiboot knows VBE'
I was testing a simple =
web server written in Go on the terminal and that=E2=80=99s why I am =
forwarding tcp port 8080 into it.
It took quite a lot of iterations to =
get these commands right. Hope this helps.
Kim
=
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 18:00:55 +0000
From: "Ethan Gardener"
To: "g_patrickb via 9fans" <9fans@9fans.net>
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, at 6:39 AM, Cyber Fonic wrote:
> I have been using Russ Cox's 9vx on OS/X Mavericks with considerable success. The only issue being that I need to connect a Logitech 3 button mouse via a Unifying RF dongle (BlueTooth mice don't work for me).
i still miss 9vx. it was so convenient when it worked. fun too; i had it full-screened in a little laptop & it felt like it was native. i've tried to use inferno in the same way, but i found it rougher than plan 9 and it lacks awk.
> Personally I find the 9vx environment more to my liking as I can edit code with vim, use Finder, etc using OS/X concurrently with Plan9 -- yes, I know that is heretical to die-hard Plan9 folks, but I'm a *nix guy foremost and a Plan9 newbie.
this was exactly how i used it until i got used to acme, but i also got used to eagle mode and badly missed that when i switched to native plan 9. i still miss it. if i could code half as well as i'd like to, we'd have a zui file manager & notes organizer by now.
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On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 02:02:40 PM EDT, Ethan Gardener wrote:
> i still miss 9vx. it was so convenient when it
> worked. fun too; i had it full-screened in a little
> ...
Was? I still use it everyday. It's my primary
terminal. I have it take the root from my file
server when I'm on my home network, and
off a little local mini root when I'm not.
BLS
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On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 02:02:40 PM EDT, Ethan Gardener <eekee57@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> i still miss 9vx. it was so convenient when it
> worked. fun too; i had it full-screened in a little
> ...
Was? I still use it everyday. It's my primary
terminal. I have it take the root from my file
server when I'm on my home network, and
off a little local mini root when I'm not.
BLS
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9legacy.org has readymade images to run on qemu and GCE.
http://9legacy.org/download.html
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:34 PM Mark Everett wrote:
> Mostly a lurker so far, but wanted to try the actual system rather than
> plan9port. But sometimes getting actual hardware up an running is a stee=
p
> first step :-)
>
> Does anyone know of a virtual machine running on current Mac OS that host=
s
> plan9? Preferably one that isn=E2=80=99t too difficult to set up=E2=80=
=A6.
>
> Also, I=E2=80=99m a little unclear on what the advantages/disadvantages o=
f the
> various forks of plan9 are best on, their audience, etc. And it seems
> somewhat difficult to determine where to find the code for the different
> forks. Most likely I=E2=80=99m just not paying attention=E2=80=A6.
>
> I do have a pi 4 but probably not the one with the wall wart fix. Is Mr.
> Miller=E2=80=99s code all in one place? Where is it publicly available?
>
> Is there some repository for add-on file systems ala 9P2000 in one place.
> If not the actual code, perhaps pointers to the actual repositories.
>
> Sorry if it appears that I=E2=80=99m not digging in to find this informat=
ion
> myself, but I can=E2=80=99t seem to find the end of the string to pull=E2=
=80=A6
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Lurker Mark
>
>
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9legacy.org has readyma=
de images to run on qemu and GCE.
=
Mostly a lurker so far, but wanted to try the actual sy=
stem rather than plan9port.=C2=A0 But sometimes getting actual hardware up =
an running is a steep first step :-)
Does anyone know of a virtual machine running on current Mac OS that hosts =
plan9?=C2=A0 Preferably one that isn=E2=80=99t too difficult to set up=E2=
=80=A6.
Also, I=E2=80=99m a little unclear on what the advantages/disadvantages of =
the various forks of plan9 are best on, their audience, etc. And it seems s=
omewhat difficult to determine where to find the code for the different for=
ks. Most likely I=E2=80=99m just not paying attention=E2=80=A6.
I do have a pi 4 but probably not the one with the wall wart fix. Is Mr. Mi=
ller=E2=80=99s code all in one place? Where is it publicly available?
Is there some repository for add-on file systems ala 9P2000 in one place. I=
f not the actual code, perhaps pointers to the actual repositories.
Sorry if it appears that I=E2=80=99m not digging in to find this informatio=
n myself, but I can=E2=80=99t seem to find the end of the string to pull=E2=
=80=A6
Thanks in advance.
Lurker Mark
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As for strings to pull, try:
Hope that helps ! =
It's where I launched my research from.
Mostly a lurker so far, but wanted to =
try the actual system rather than plan9port. But sometimes getting =
actual hardware up an running is a steep first step :-)
Does anyone know of a virtual machine running on current Mac OS that =
hosts plan9? Preferably one that isn=E2=80=99t too difficult to =
set up=E2=80=A6.
Also, I=E2=80=99m a little unclear on what the advantages/disadvantages =
of the various forks of plan9 are best on, their audience, etc. And it =
seems somewhat difficult to determine where to find the code for the =
different forks. Most likely I=E2=80=99m just not paying =
attention=E2=80=A6.
I do have a pi 4 but probably not the one with the wall wart fix. Is Mr. =
Miller=E2=80=99s code all in one place? Where is it publicly =
available?
Is there some repository for add-on file systems ala 9P2000 in one =
place. If not the actual code, perhaps pointers to the actual =
repositories.
Sorry if it appears that I=E2=80=99m not digging in to find this =
information myself, but I can=E2=80=99t seem to find the end of the =
string to pull=E2=80=A6
Thanks in advance.
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Harassing=C2=A0part costs extra :)
Thanks to all. I appreciate=
your support. And its nice to find a forum where everyone isn=E2=80=99t ha=
rassing=E2=80=A6..
=E2=80=94 Mark
As for strings to pull,=
try:
Hope that helps !=C2=A0 It's where I launched my research from.
Mostly a lurk=
er so far, but wanted to try the actual system rather than plan9port.=C2=A0=
But sometimes getting actual hardware up an running is a steep first step =
:-)
Does anyone know of a virtual machine running on current Mac OS that hosts =
plan9?=C2=A0 Preferably one that isn=E2=80=99t too difficult to set up=E2=
=80=A6.
Also, I=E2=80=99m a little unclear on what the advantages/disadvantages of =
the various forks of plan9 are best on, their audience, etc. And it seems s=
omewhat difficult to determine where to find the code for the different for=
ks. Most likely I=E2=80=99m just not paying attention=E2=80=A6.
I do have a pi 4 but probably not the one with the wall wart fix. Is Mr. Mi=
ller=E2=80=99s code all in one place? Where is it publicly available?
Is there some repository for add-on file systems ala 9P2000 in one place. I=
f not the actual code, perhaps pointers to the actual repositories.
Sorry if it appears that I=E2=80=99m not digging in to find this informatio=
n myself, but I can=E2=80=99t seem to find the end of the string to pull=E2=
=80=A6
Thanks in advance.
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I am curious about the problems you have with your Linux M=
int. I have been running a relatively large (6 TB max) venti on an old Tosh=
iba laptop with Intel core 2 processor running Bunsenlabs (Debian) the last=
couple of years. It was migrated from a 2 TB venti running on an old Penti=
um 4 box with 1 GB running Crunchbang (Debian), when that one ran out of sp=
ace. Both installations have been used for backup of various other systems,=
including my Linux Mint laptop, my Linux file server, and a 9front install=
ation, and I have experienced no problems at all with respect to throughput=
. I have a fairly sub-optimal config with everything on a single disk:
=
index sdc-6tb
arenas /dev/sdc1
isect /dev/sdc2
bloo=
m /dev/sdc3
mem 100M
bcmem 200M
icmem 400M
What kind of write speed are you seeing?
On 3/18/20, Steven Stallion <sstallion@gmail.com> wrote:
[ ...]
>
> I've had a lot of luck using venti from plan9port with fossil runn=
ing
> natively on my plan9 fileserver. I keep a directory on sources (now
> 9p.io) with some notes and example scripts on how to make this work:
> http://9p.io/sources/contrib/stallion/venti/. T=
he biggest benefit to
> this configuration is it makes offsite backups a breeze from the Linux=
> host.
>
Nice stuff, Steven. I found my small Linuxmint workstation not up to
the task, the worst symptom being that shutting venti down takes a
very long time, tens of minutes, I think. It didn't matter when the
host was on all the time, but of late power blackouts have made that
untenable.
What I wish to contribute here is that using an external drive and
configuring it as a raw image allows it to be used (I presume even
shared) between Venti hosts. My most recent (and pretty old)
configuration is this:
$ cat sdb.conf
index=C2=A0 =C2=A0main
isect=C2=A0 =C2=A0/dev/sdb3:0k-20774910k
arenas=C2=A0 /dev/sdb3:20774911k-418906111k
bloom=C2=A0 =C2=A0/dev/sdb3:418906112k-419430400k
mem=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A080m
bcmem=C2=A0 =C2=A0160m
icmem=C2=A0 =C2=A0256m
addr=C2=A0 =C2=A0 tcp!*!venti
httpaddr=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 tcp!*!8008
Sadly, there is at least one damaged block and I did not have the
foresight to set the drive up as a mirror or better.=C2=A0 It is not
critical, but that would be helpful.
The equally low priority problem I mentioned in the past: vacfs on p9p
truncates all large files on reading. Cinap suggested checking for
mixed-size pointer/integer types, but that becomes a mission. Still,
it is worth doing.
The native version of vacfs works flawlessly and mounts quite
successfully under p9p.
Lucio.
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I hacked it a bit to make it =
work for me. I don't remember if there
was a problem with the normal setup or if I just wanted =
different
ergonomics.
Thanks to your words of encouragement I have =
been successfully running both venti and fossil natively on macOS since =
yesterday, serving a Plan 9 terminal that runs via QEMU. I keep this =
MacBook running 24/7, and this morning I found fossil in a busy loop =
eating all CPU time according to htop. The busy loop never happened when =
the file server was a Plan 9 virtual machine. Other than this one issue, =
fossil starts a lot faster as a macOS binary than as a VM and also the =
Plan 9 terminal boots faster. This probably has to do with the sluggish =
user mode networking in qemu. I spent a couple of days trying to get =
tap+bridge working on a Mac to speed up virtual machine networking, but =
eventually gave up when I couldn=E2=80=99t find anyone who has =
successfully configured this on a Mac.
Kim
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