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From: Giacomo Tesio <giacomo@tesio.it>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] create/create race
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:28:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHL7psHZLCDuBqTtzSQKnAf+AKySJLAE1_g02Dk=SSfvUUPdCA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOw7k5isH0yJDGz1FDofGgi3BsSyqqqivhDz=yxpQ9Ud0E+Cqw@mail.gmail.com>

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2016-11-30 16:08 GMT+01:00 Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com>:

>
> On 30 November 2016 at 15:02, Giacomo Tesio <giacomo@tesio.it> wrote:
>
>>
>> But reading that thread I can't actually see why the OEXCL path has been
>> taken instead of eliminating the race mapping the syscall to the 9p message.
>> I mean except backward compatibility.
>>
>
> I suppose you'll find out, but I'd expect that all but a handful of
> instances want the existing effect and are untroubled by any potential race.
> Given that OEXCL then seems to handle the handful, it seems a reasonable
> approach.
> The ocreate would just put the race in a different place, wouldn't it?
>

Well not exactly: I will use the new create syscall (without OEXCL support)
when I need such level of control and use ocreate with OEXCL when I do not
care about the race and want a "create or truncate" default behaviour.

But actually, I cannot see a use case where the create(2) default behaviour
can be *wanted*.
I just see many use case where it can be tollerated: the create can fail
anyway for other reasons so it does not add much complexity to the client...
But I'm probably missing something obvious: can you provide an example
where not having the truncate fallback in the syscall actually break the
program or introduce a bug. It's exactly what I'm looking for.


Giacomo

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-30 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-24 21:25 Giacomo Tesio
2016-11-30 11:04 ` Giacomo Tesio
2016-11-30 11:19   ` cinap_lenrek
2016-11-30 13:14   ` G. David Butler
2016-11-30 13:32     ` cinap_lenrek
2016-11-30 13:53       ` Charles Forsyth
2016-11-30 15:02         ` Giacomo Tesio
2016-11-30 15:08           ` Charles Forsyth
2016-11-30 15:28             ` Giacomo Tesio [this message]
2016-11-30 15:34               ` Charles Forsyth
2016-11-30 15:40               ` cinap_lenrek
2016-11-30 16:16                 ` Giacomo Tesio
2016-11-30 21:51                   ` Charles Forsyth
2016-11-30 21:53                     ` Charles Forsyth
2016-11-30 23:15                       ` Giacomo Tesio

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