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From: "Rubén Berenguel" <ruben@mostlymaths.net>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 21:23:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk2O6oeYRcqxhz8esmiucU3h8xn6N=WgBaE4Akfr_U=mZYcBQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABwHSOtVxbK-6tt-+w9GE4=MWvtRQ3jndesT5hBfristtCEwZA@mail.gmail.com>

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I somewhat agree that some of the answers you are getting have somewhat
been (sometimes, not all, and not constantly) been insulting. But a year or
so ago I was also a Plan9 newbie, and I just read the manuals when I didn't
know how to do something. I followed some long-ago-read advice of first
smashing my head against the keyboard before asking the "online guru." And
by no means I'm an expert in systems programming, other *nixes or anything
beside a small branch of mathematics (and this is fading, since I'm no
longer actively researching) and a lot of stuff used in SEO and related
areas by constant daily use at work.

 I have probably read acme(1) and acme(4) more than 70 times in the past
year, and probably double that for plumb and plumber (in all of their
sections.) And there are still a lot of things I don't understand when
interacting with them, just the other day dove into acme's source to answer
a question in #plan9 (about what the Abort command does.)

Ruben


On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Blake McBride <blake@mcbride.name> wrote:

> Documentation is always clear to people who already know the material but
> use the documentation as a reminder.  It is difficult for a newbie to
> differentiate out-of-date material, branch specific material, and valid
> documentation.  I am providing feedback from a newbie's perspective.  You
> can either take advantage of some of the feedback to make it easier for a
> newbie (that cannot reason) thus increasing the number of users, or you can
> insult them until they leave.  I apologize for not being as smart as you.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Kurt H Maier <khm@sciops.net> wrote:
>
>> Quoting Blake McBride <blake@mcbride.name>:
>>
>>  Or perhaps:
>>>
>>> echo newuser USER-NAME  >>/srv/cwfs.cmd
>>>
>>> replace USER-NAME with the new user's name.  If most commands are in
>>> lowercase, it might make sense to use uppercase names as things that
>>> need
>>> to be specified.
>>>
>>
>> Or perhaps we use the documentation as a way to weed out people who cannot
>> reason.
>>
>> khm
>>
>>
>>
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-23 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-23  2:37 Blake McBride
2013-12-23  5:19 ` Sergey Zhilkin
2013-12-23  6:15   ` Matthew Veety
2013-12-23 13:34     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 13:46       ` Richard Miller
2013-12-23 13:55         ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 14:36   ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 15:10   ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 15:32     ` Bence Fábián
2013-12-23 17:13       ` sl
2013-12-23 18:00       ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 18:03         ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 18:28           ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-23 20:03             ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 20:18               ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 20:23               ` Rubén Berenguel [this message]
2013-12-23 20:48                 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 21:20                   ` Steve Simon
2013-12-23 20:51               ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-23 21:45                 ` Blake McBride
2013-12-23 22:00                   ` Matthew Veety
2013-12-23 22:07                   ` sl
2013-12-23 22:45                     ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 23:47                       ` sl
2013-12-23 23:54                       ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-24 12:06                         ` Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
2013-12-24 12:24                           ` lucio
2013-12-24 17:47                             ` Steffen Daode Nurpmeso
2013-12-25  5:30                               ` lucio
2013-12-25  5:58                         ` Federico G. Benavento
2013-12-24  0:16                   ` Kurt H Maier
2013-12-24  0:57                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2013-12-24  2:49                       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2013-12-24  3:03                         ` Bruce Ellis
2013-12-23 19:18           ` Richard Miller
2013-12-23 19:30             ` cinap_lenrek
2013-12-23 19:37               ` erik quanstrom
2013-12-23 20:29                 ` cinap_lenrek
2013-12-23 15:42     ` cinap_lenrek
2013-12-23  9:38 ` Richard Miller

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