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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also started a paper about the very small 9P library I used on MCUs, I was hoping to present this at IWP9 before we all ended up in the pandemic Biff timeline https://echoline.org/NinePea.pdf this paper is still not that polished yet On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 1:28 PM Bakul Shah wrote: > Thanks! Quite an interesting paper. I vaguely recall reading > this a long time ago. > > I think the key will be to figure out how to make this a very > easy to use component. It is not rocket science but will > probably require a few iterations to smooth out any rough > edges and to see what evolves. > > Good to see there is interest in the community! > > On Jan 28, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Charles Forsyth > wrote: > > https://www.cs.york.ac.uk/rts/static/papers/R:N.C.:Audsley:2006.pdf might > be of interest. > > They turned up at an embedded systems show at Birmingham NEC about that > time. > I was attending independently, but it was interesting to see,. > Wandering about some boring other stands, I found one that was showing off > a small embedded device running a remarkable system. > There was source code on the screen. > "Hmm", I asked, "what's the language it's running?" > Lars Bok [for it was he], proudly, "It is SmallTalk!" in 64k [I think] on > a micro with a real-time garbage collector and in-service code updating on > the fly. > Just fantastic. We bemoaned the boring nature of most of the stands. I > mentioned Styx-on-a-Chip and he wandered off to have a look, returning to > say it was also interesting. > I forget the name of the system, but eventually the company was sold on or > got different investors in, who turned it into a Java thing. As usual. > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 at 10:18, Lucio De Re wrote: > >> On 1/28/22, Bakul Shah wrote: >> > >> > Think of really simple, low power, low cost devices. >> > USB can also provide power. USB+ATtiny85 devel boards >> > cost ~$3 even at Amazon. And FPGA boards can be >> > pretty inexpensive too. If you can find them. >> > >> I've recommended olimex.com in the past. They specialise in Open >> Architecture Hardware. 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I also started a paper about the very small 9= P library I used on MCUs, I was hoping to present this at IWP9 before we al= l ended up in the pandemic Biff timeline https://echoline.org/NinePea.pdf

this paper is still not that polished yet

O= n Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 1:28 PM Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org> wrote:
= Thanks! Quite an interesting paper. I vaguely recall reading
this a lon= g time ago. 

I think the key will be to figure ou= t how to make this a very
easy to use component. It is not rocket= science but will
probably require a few iterations to smooth out= any rough
edges and to see what evolves.

<= div>Good to see there is interest in the community!

On Jan 28,= 2022, at 11:01 AM, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com> wrote:

https://www.cs.york.ac.uk/rts/static/papers/R:N.C.:Audsley:200= 6.pdf might be of interest.

They turned up a= t an embedded systems show at Birmingham NEC about that time.
I was attending independently, but it was interesting to see,.
=
Wandering about some boring other stands, I found one that was showing= off a small embedded device running a remarkable system.
There w= as source code on the screen.
"Hmm", I asked, &quo= t;what's the language it's running?"
Lars Bok [for i= t was he], proudly, "It is SmallTalk!" in 64k [I think] on a micr= o with a real-time garbage collector and in-service code updating on the fl= y.
Just fantastic. We bemoaned the boring nature of most of the s= tands. I mentioned Styx-on-a-Chip and he wandered off to have a look, retur= ning to say it was also interesting.
I forget the name of the sys= tem, but eventually the company was sold on or got different investors in, = who turned it into a Java thing. As usual.

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 at 10= :18, Lucio De Re <lucio.dere@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/28/22, Bakul Shah <ba= kul@iitbombay.org> wrote:
>
> Think of really simple, low power, low cost devices.
> USB can also provide power. USB+ATtiny85 devel boards
> cost ~$3 even at Amazon. And FPGA boards can be
> pretty inexpensive too. If you can find them.
>
I've recommended olimex.com in the past. They specialise in Ope= n
Architecture Hardware. Their prices are very reasonable and product
range quite broad.

Lucio.

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