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Thu, 25 Jan 2024 11:43:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0effcc39-7b03-4a1c-af30-36ffc6d97e2a@app.fastmail.com> <667E776F-FFFA-49FB-AA5B-61CB56CDB3AD@iitbombay.org> In-Reply-To: From: Eli Cohen Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 11:43:19 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. 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I do agree that having a more "original" Plan 9 option like 9legacy is a good idea. in terms of what that actually means doing, a lot of the obvious effort would be to go into turning stuff from 9front into patches for 9legacy. I started to do this to make a patch for dp9ik for 9legacy and I quickly realized how much effort that actually would take On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 11:35 AM Don Bailey wrote: > Sometimes gatekeeping is good. It's OK if folks don't agree. > > I think it's healthy to create a strict regimen around "mainline". I am > not against 9front doing whatever it wants, I just would prefer if the two > did not merge. It's important to keep the 9 ecosystem stable, imo. > > D > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 1:02=E2=80=AFPM thedaemon via 9fans <9fans@9fans.= net> > wrote: > >> >> Don, you have been gate keeping this whole thread. I see noone agreeing >> with you either. 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we've had discussions like this before. I= do agree that having a more "original" Plan 9 option like 9legac= y is a good idea. in terms of what that actually means doing, a lot of= the obvious effort would be to go into turning stuff from 9front into patc= hes for 9legacy. I started to do this to make a patch for dp9ik for 9legacy= and I quickly realized how much effort that actually would take

On Thu, J= an 25, 2024, 11:35 AM Don Bailey <don.bailey@gmail.com> wrote:
Sometimes gatekeeping is good. It's OK if folks d= on't agree. 

I think it's healthy to crea= te a strict regimen around "mainline". I am not against 9front do= ing whatever it wants, I just would prefer if the two did not merge. It'= ;s important to keep the 9 ecosystem stable, imo. 

D

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 1:02 PM thedaemon via 9fans= <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:

Don, you have be= en gate keeping this whole thread. I see noone agreeing with you either.&nb= sp; We could all be a little kinder to one another, especially since we all= have love for Plan 9. 


— thedæmon 🫠


On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:31 AM, Don Bailey <don.bailey@gmail.com> wrote:
Cool gaslighting. 



On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 12:25 PM Bakul Shah <bak= ul@iitbombay.org> wrote:
On Jan 25, 2024, at 8:44 AM, Don Bailey <don.= bailey@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what all this was, so I didn't read most of it. <= br /> >
> If 9front becomes the "mainline" 9, I will stop using 9 alto= gether. Both as a user and a developer.
>
> I trust the sources that come from 9legacy/9pio but I don't have a= ny interest in the mess of whatever 9front is supposed to be.

9front is eminently usable. May be you are rejecting it for the wrong reaso= ns?


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