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From: Eli Cohen <echoline@gmail.com>
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Software philosophy
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 20:16:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHwi9bxFJ7cu-erz9cL6CJMBaHDC5D+9WhyuQ9yzvwkNOTRugA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4fb3ad2e48e31b089705a85b1374de02@hera.eonet.ne.jp>

hey Kenji,

deep learning is another interest of mine too. hardware support is a
big deal for that... some kind of support for GPUs would be nice.
people have discussed that for years... hardware drivers are difficult
and important to do correctly!

python is used a lot for some of the available things... tensorflow is
a really nice approach for custom networks, even making custom layers,
etc. I haven't seen any examples but it would be interesting to think
about that in C. it might end up being easier to write something like
that in C than port everything for something like tensorflow... I did
port a somewhat outdated C library: https://github.com/echoline/fann
it isn't nearly as customizable as tensorflow though.

I always really liked the "XCPU" and drawterm type ideas of using
other OSes for their existing strengths along with Plan 9. maybe
drawterm could have a GPU device driver or something... that being
said I have sometimes found it ends up surprisingly easier doing it
all on Plan 9...

- Eli

On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 7:48 PM <kokamoto@hera.eonet.ne.jp> wrote:
> > I have ended up using 9front more and more, obviously. 9front was
> > started specifically to address the fact that Plan 9 from Bell Labs
> > didn't run on most computers...
> 
> me, too.
> 
> 9front have many kinds of device drivers.   If we live on other OSs than plan9,
> we cannot do anything other than those device drivers.
> 
> However, if we consider it more deep, we don't need not so much
> kinds of running terminals.  We need only one cpu/auth/file server machine
> and many of drawterms, or as Russ is doing plan9port.
> 
> If we consider it like this, we should discuss what kinds of computer work
> we want.   I want to run deep learning on plan9...  If so, we need 64 bit
> kernel for cpu server, and python....
> 
> Kenji
> 

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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-16 11:15 [9fans] OAuth2 in factotum Demetrius Iatrakis
2021-08-17  3:48 ` Lucio De Re
2021-08-17  7:47   ` Keith Gibbs
2021-08-18  3:55     ` Lucio De Re
2021-08-18  7:02       ` [9fans] Software philosophy Skip Tavakkolian
2021-08-18  7:19         ` hiro
2021-08-18 10:15           ` Lucio De Re
2021-08-18  9:46         ` Keith Gibbs
2021-08-18 10:13         ` vic.thacker
2021-08-18 11:34           ` Keith Gibbs
2021-08-18 11:47             ` Lucio De Re
2021-08-18 23:44             ` hiro
2021-08-19  4:34               ` Lucio De Re
2021-08-19 10:44                 ` Keith Gibbs
2021-08-19 18:53                 ` Git & Conventional Browsers (Was Re: [9fans] Software philosophy) unobe
2021-08-19 19:00                   ` ori
2021-08-18 11:34           ` [9fans] Software philosophy Lucio De Re
2021-08-18 11:28         ` Lucio De Re
2021-08-18 12:02           ` Keith Gibbs
2021-08-18 19:33             ` leimy2k via 9fans
2021-08-18 20:09               ` David du Colombier
2021-08-18 22:00                 ` Eli Cohen
2021-08-19  7:08                   ` Keith Gibbs
2021-08-19  7:59                     ` sirjofri
2021-08-19  9:27                       ` Lucio De Re
2021-08-19  9:45                         ` hiro
2021-08-19  9:51                         ` hiro
2021-08-19 10:10                           ` sirjofri
2021-08-19 10:38                         ` Keith Gibbs
2021-08-19 11:45                           ` hiro
2021-08-19 12:43                             ` Eli Cohen
2021-08-19 19:58                               ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2021-08-19 10:56                         ` kvik
2021-08-19 11:33                           ` sirjofri
2021-08-19 20:44                           ` ori
2021-08-19  9:29                       ` hiro
2021-08-19  9:44                         ` sirjofri
2021-08-19  9:19                     ` hiro
2021-08-22  2:46                   ` kokamoto
2021-08-22  3:16                     ` Eli Cohen [this message]
2021-08-22  7:07                       ` [9fans] Drawterm GPU (was: Software philosophy) sirjofri
2021-08-22 10:04                         ` Frank D. Engel, Jr.
2021-08-22 11:49                           ` sirjofri
2021-08-22 12:24                             ` Chris McGee
2021-08-18  9:18       ` [9fans] OAuth2 in factotum Keith Gibbs
2021-08-18 12:10         ` Ethan Gardener
2021-08-18 15:23         ` Stuart Morrow
2021-08-18 16:58           ` Stuart Morrow
2021-08-18 17:06             ` Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir
2021-08-17 15:25   ` ori
2021-08-18  3:59     ` Lucio De Re
2021-08-18  4:20       ` ori
2021-08-18  4:42         ` Eli Cohen
2021-08-18  5:06         ` Lucio De Re
2021-08-17  4:13 ` ori
2021-08-17  5:43   ` Lucio De Re
2021-08-19  3:52 ` Kurt H Maier
2021-08-19  5:38 ` ori
2021-08-22 20:16 ` ori
2021-08-22 20:32   ` Demetrius Iatrakis
2021-08-22 20:38     ` ori
2021-08-22 20:36   ` ori

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