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Sat, 21 Aug 2021 20:16:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4fb3ad2e48e31b089705a85b1374de02@hera.eonet.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <4fb3ad2e48e31b089705a85b1374de02@hera.eonet.ne.jp> From: Eli Cohen Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 20:16:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] Software philosophy To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 694dfcd2-02f7-11ec-9b88-9bf775e9e44b Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UOWVmNjQzMGYzMDI1ZTczMS1NZGY4MzBlYmM0NDY2MzZkNGNhMzdi?= =?UTF-8?B?NDc5Pg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:Mdf830ebc446636d4ca37b479:1:vqZGCS05stXA9txClm8efc1z1eGXHif8T68p_NNyj1k hey Kenji, deep learning is another interest of mine too. hardware support is a big deal for that... some kind of support for GPUs would be nice. people have discussed that for years... hardware drivers are difficult and important to do correctly! python is used a lot for some of the available things... tensorflow is a really nice approach for custom networks, even making custom layers, etc. I haven't seen any examples but it would be interesting to think about that in C. it might end up being easier to write something like that in C than port everything for something like tensorflow... I did port a somewhat outdated C library: https://github.com/echoline/fann it isn't nearly as customizable as tensorflow though. I always really liked the "XCPU" and drawterm type ideas of using other OSes for their existing strengths along with Plan 9. maybe drawterm could have a GPU device driver or something... that being said I have sometimes found it ends up surprisingly easier doing it all on Plan 9... - Eli On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 7:48 PM wrote: > > I have ended up using 9front more and more, obviously. 9front was > > started specifically to address the fact that Plan 9 from Bell Labs > > didn't run on most computers... >=20 > me, too. >=20 > 9front have many kinds of device drivers. If we live on other OSs than = plan9, > we cannot do anything other than those device drivers. >=20 > However, if we consider it more deep, we don't need not so much > kinds of running terminals. We need only one cpu/auth/file server machine > and many of drawterms, or as Russ is doing plan9port. >=20 > If we consider it like this, we should discuss what kinds of computer work > we want. I want to run deep learning on plan9... If so, we need 64 bit > kernel for cpu server, and python.... >=20 > Kenji >=20 ------------------------------------------ 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T9ef6430f3025e731-Mdf830= ebc446636d4ca37b479 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription