[9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

[9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

[Mayuresh Kathe]

did plan 9 have any pager? or did every text file to be read had to be
opened in acme or a similar tool?

btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what to search for,
hence couldn't find any.

thanks,

~mayuresh

Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

[Skip Tavakkolian]

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Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then
cat the file.


On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 8:15 PM Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@kathe.in> wrote:

> did plan 9 have any pager? or did every text file to be read had to be
> opened in acme or a similar tool?
>
> btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what to search for,
> hence couldn't find any.
>
> thanks,
>
> ~mayuresh
>
>
>

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Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

[Nick Owens]

the pager is p(1).
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:22 PM Skip Tavakkolian
<skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then cat the file.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 8:15 PM Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@kathe.in> wrote:
>>
>> did plan 9 have any pager? or did every text file to be read had to be
>> opened in acme or a similar tool?
>>
>> btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what to search for,
>> hence couldn't find any.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> ~mayuresh
>>
>>

Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

[Alexander Kapshuk]

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 6:16 AM Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@kathe.in> wrote:
>
> did plan 9 have any pager? or did every text file to be read had to be
> opened in acme or a similar tool?
>
> btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what to search for,
> hence couldn't find any.
>
> thanks,
>
> ~mayuresh
>
>

https://9p.io/magic/man2html/1/p
https://9p.io/magic/man2html/1/cat
https://9p.io/magic/man2html/1/page

Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

[Mayuresh Kathe]

thanks nick.

On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 08:23:47PM -0700, Nick Owens wrote:
> the pager is p(1).
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:22 PM Skip Tavakkolian
> <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then cat the file.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 8:15 PM Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@kathe.in> wrote:
> >>
> >> did plan 9 have any pager? or did every text file to be read had to be
> >> opened in acme or a similar tool?
> >>
> >> btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what to search for,
> >> hence couldn't find any.
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >>
> >> ~mayuresh
> >>
> >>
>

Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

[Chris McGee]

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I like how the pager (page) actually shows a page on the screen with the
text you pipe to it. There's some real truth in the name.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 12:34 AM Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@kathe.in> wrote:

> thanks nick.
>
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 08:23:47PM -0700, Nick Owens wrote:
> > the pager is p(1).
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:22 PM Skip Tavakkolian
> > <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in,
> then cat the file.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 8:15 PM Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh@kathe.in> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> did plan 9 have any pager? or did every text file to be read had to be
> > >> opened in acme or a similar tool?
> > >>
> > >> btw, is there any pager under plan9port? didn't know what to search
> for,
> > >> hence couldn't find any.
> > >>
> > >> thanks,
> > >>
> > >> ~mayuresh
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
>

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Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

[Ethan Gardener]

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then cat the file.

This is my preferred option too.  Also works in 9term.  I liked to play MUDs this way, but without color I missed stuff.


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Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

[Rudolf Sykora]

On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 09:22, Ethan Gardener <eekee57@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then cat the file.
>
> This is my preferred option too.  Also works in 9term.  I liked to play MUDs this way, but without color I missed stuff.

This has the problem of inability to search within the text,
e.g. when reading a man page.

On the other hand, a pager should perhaps be only a pager.

When one needs to do searching, something like 'less' on unixes
is far more convenient for me.

Ruda

Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

[Ethan Gardener]

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 09:22, Ethan Gardener <eekee57@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> > > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in, then cat the file.
> >
> > This is my preferred option too.  Also works in 9term.  I liked to play MUDs this way, but without color I missed stuff.
>
> This has the problem of inability to search within the text,
> e.g. when reading a man page.

'look' has been added to the button-2 menu in 9front.  It's limited, but better than nothing.

> On the other hand, a pager should perhaps be only a pager.
>
> When one needs to do searching, something like 'less' on unixes
> is far more convenient for me.

Less's features help somewhat, but I still prefer short manual pages. It's not like you can search for sequences of words in Less, thanks to the practice of replacing arbitrary spaces with newlines.  Or can you?  The last time I tried was probably more than a decade ago.  Anyway, there is still hyphenation, which Less still couldn't deal with a few months ago.  This separation of formatting from display is bad, as far as I'm concerned.


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Progress might have been all right once, but it has gone on too long -- Ogden Nash

Re: [9fans] plan 9 : any pager?

[Skip Tavakkolian]

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grep pattern /dev/text # a.k.a /dev/wsys/`{read /dev/winid}^/text


On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 1:30 AM Rudolf Sykora <rudolf.sykora@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 09:22, Ethan Gardener <eekee57@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> > > Turn off the scroll in the rio window that the shell is running in,
> then cat the file.
> >
> > This is my preferred option too.  Also works in 9term.  I liked to play
> MUDs this way, but without color I missed stuff.
>
> This has the problem of inability to search within the text,
> e.g. when reading a man page.
>
> On the other hand, a pager should perhaps be only a pager.
>
> When one needs to do searching, something like 'less' on unixes
> is far more convenient for me.
>
> Ruda
>
>

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