From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20120726175726.GA2006@polynum.com> References: <06352a956e36cee642ff5532f4e4d3af@kw.quanstro.net> <20120726175726.GA2006@polynum.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:29:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Leimbach To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042f948efe957604c5c173a3 Subject: Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations? Topicbox-Message-UUID: a602d704-ead7-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --f46d042f948efe957604c5c173a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:57 AM, wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 01:04:57PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > On Thu Jul 26 11:18:04 EDT 2012, mirtchovski@gmail.com wrote: > > > > I liked it for the same reason I > > > > liked those Cell processors - I'm weird. > > > > > > a lot of people really hated it because it killed alpha... > > > > credit where due. itanic killed alpha. > > > > or more accurately, the politics behind itanic. > > And perhaps the conception too? about what was needed from the > compiler and the programmer to really use the stuff. It seemed far > too complex to be of sufficiently easy of use and large benefits to > convince a lot of people to try. The doubtful description read in > Hennesy and Patterson' "Computer Architecture" was fair enough. > > Not to speak about compatibility, the one feature that made Intel and > Microsoft prosper... > > The Plan9 vs Unix is not in the very same pattern. If Itanium was > doomed, the Plan9 approach seems to me more and more valid > everyday---interconnections, ubiquity or lack of locality of > resources; terminals vs. CPU vs. fileservers etc. > > And simplicity... > > We'll just keep the fire lit then I suppose until people come to their senses :-) > -- > Thierry Laronde > http://www.kergis.com/ > Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C > > --f46d042f948efe957604c5c173a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:57 AM, <= tlaronde@polynum.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 01:04:57PM = -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Thu Jul 26 11:18:04 EDT 2012, mirtchovski@gmail.com wrote:
> > > =A0I liked it for the same reason I
> > > liked those Cell processors - I'm weird.
> >
> > a lot of people really hated it because it killed alpha...
>
> credit where due. =A0itanic killed alpha.
>
> or more accurately, the politics behind itanic.

And perhaps the conception too? about what was needed from the<= br> compiler and the programmer to really use the stuff. It seemed far
too complex to be of sufficiently easy of use and large benefits to
convince a lot of people to try. The doubtful description read in
Hennesy and Patterson' "Computer Architecture" was fair enoug= h.

Not to speak about compatibility, the one feature that made Intel and
Microsoft prosper...

The Plan9 vs Unix is not in the very same pattern. If Itanium was
doomed, the Plan9 approach seems to me more and more valid
everyday---interconnections, ubiquity or lack of locality of
resources; terminals vs. CPU vs. fileservers etc.

And simplicity...


We'll just keep the fire lit then I suppose unti= l people come to their senses :-)

=A0
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=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Thierry Laronde <tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.kergis.com/
Key fingerprint =3D 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 =A0250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

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