[9fans] Heresy alert

[9fans] Heresy alert

[Winston Kodogo]

I'd vote for spelling it Xerox, on the possibly spurious grounds that
a Chinese colleague of mine pronounced it "ex-rocks" for some time. I
still prefer his pronunciation, and have adopted it myself. The
initial "Z" just doesn't work for me.

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

[andrew zerger]

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In honor of plan9s utf imperitive, and after a little g-translate I think
your Chinese colleague might prefer 复本 (fu`ben^) .. which .. takes up less
screen space and to most new users would be about as eas to integrate
mentally ;)

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Winston Kodogo <kodogo@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd vote for spelling it Xerox, on the possibly spurious grounds that
> a Chinese colleague of mine pronounced it "ex-rocks" for some time. I
> still prefer his pronunciation, and have adopted it myself. The
> initial "Z" just doesn't work for me.
>
>


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Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

[Charles Forsyth]

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The curious Z spelling was to avoid using a trademarked word in a generic
sense.

On 30 May 2012 22:05, Winston Kodogo <kodogo@gmail.com> wrote:

> The
> initial "Z" just doesn't work for me.
>

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Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

[David Leimbach]

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On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Charles Forsyth
<charles.forsyth@gmail.com>wrote:

> The curious Z spelling was to avoid using a trademarked word in a generic
> sense.


But I believe Xerox lost that ability, as their name became a verb in the
common vernacular.  At least I believe I heard that in a marketing class I
had in college.

That said, it seems people can and will sue for basically anything.  I vote
we call it "Kevin" as a result.

Dave


>
> On 30 May 2012 22:05, Winston Kodogo <kodogo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The
>> initial "Z" just doesn't work for me.
>>
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

[andrey mirtchovski]

Xerox seems to have missed losing their trademark [1]. There's a
lawsuit filed about Google's trademarked name in arizona [2]. A list
of genericized trademarks is available at [3].

Ahh, litigation...

1: http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c6a7953ef0134851907f7970c-popup
2: http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/man-launches-lawsuit-to-have-googles-trademark-on-its-own-name-undone/
3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_and_genericized_trademarks

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

[David Leimbach]

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On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:50 AM, andrey mirtchovski
<mirtchovski@gmail.com>wrote:

> Xerox seems to have missed losing their trademark [1]. There's a
> lawsuit filed about Google's trademarked name in arizona [2]. A list
> of genericized trademarks is available at [3].
>
> Ahh, litigation...
>
>
>
Ah well, I never bought that argument myself anyway :-).  It had something
to do with fair use of things, which honestly, I think we're losing in the
United States.

Dave

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Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

[Calvin Morrison]

On 31 May 2012 10:39, David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Charles Forsyth <charles.forsyth@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> The curious Z spelling was to avoid using a trademarked word in a generic
>> sense.
>
>
> But I believe Xerox lost that ability, as their name became a verb in the
> common vernacular.  At least I believe I heard that in a marketing class I
> had in college.
>
> That said, it seems people can and will sue for basically anything.  I vote
> we call it "Kevin" as a result.
>
> Dave
>
>>
>>
>> On 30 May 2012 22:05, Winston Kodogo <kodogo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The
>>> initial "Z" just doesn't work for me.
>>
>>
>

It is better to ask forgiveness than permission -

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

[Stephen Wiley]

On May 31, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Calvin Morrison wrote:

> It is better to ask forgiveness than permission -
>

Unless it's from a lawyer! :D

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

[Wes Kussmaul]

On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 07:39 -0700, David Leimbach wrote:

>  I vote we call it "Kevin" as a result.

             Sell the naming rights!

[9fans] Heresy alert

[Jason Catena]

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There is a computer science concept analogous to what Zerox does. "Pass
argument by reference" also provides a look-in to a point in memory without
copying it. So if you want to name it something else, try changing it to
CpRef.

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Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

[dexen deVries]

On Thursday 31 of May 2012 06:30:28 Jason Catena wrote:
> There is a computer science concept analogous to what Zerox does. "Pass
> argument by reference" also provides a look-in to a point in memory without
> copying it. So if you want to name it something else, try changing it to
> CpRef.

+1

also, please provide `call-by-name' in Rc while you are at it ;-)


-- 
dexen deVries

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Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

[Ethan Grammatikidis]

On Thu, 31 May 2012 06:30:28 -0700
Jason Catena <jason.catena@gmail.com> wrote:

> There is a computer science concept analogous to what Zerox does. "Pass
> argument by reference" also provides a look-in to a point in memory without
> copying it. So if you want to name it something else, try changing it to
> CpRef.

I believe I forgot to +1 a suggestion for "Dup" above. Dup reminds me
of dup(2) which I think is a close match.

--
This is obviously some strange usage of the
word "simple" that I was previously unaware of.