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From: Lucio De Re <lucio.dere@gmail.com>
To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] patches from 9front
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 13:57:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJQ9t7g0L4W3KavS_JLH+_PDHYhmNFqVVbQvxpSDJk1wh_i0=w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFSF3XM9MaGFsqi34eqpf3McCLKFL13Sz-ZigrMAvDrFCftbmQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/11/21, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I like
>> to think that there is "One plan 9" struggling to be born from these
>> variations.
>
> it there's any "One plan 9" it's clearly called golang. cause all
> added syscalls to any of the distributions came from there...
>
Well, I'd love to catch up on how NetBSD coped with the Golang
demands, their Foundation was, to the best of my knowledge, also run
by "purists". That said, I presume the new syscalls could probably be
tucked in the Go runtime. Or is it essential to match everything that
Linux does?

> if that incident had not happened i'd have now claimed: the one good
> thing that comes out of multiple competing plan9 distributions is that
> there's a stronger urge to stay backwards compatible, as that will
> provide interoperability between all competitors in the long run.
>
I don't see why that should not remain an objective, although not an
exclusive one. What I believe is that shrinking the base system is
preferable to expanding it. I'm willing to sacrifice performance for
simplicity, no matter what the public gets sold.

> gladly the will to sync crucial changes regardless is strong enough,
> so i guess it doesn't matter.
>
It does matter. The need to incorporate many bug fixes from Cinap has
been obvious for a long time. But drawing the line between bug fixes
and incompatible changes is a responsibility that needs community
agreement, even when guided by a "foundation".

I think what has kept Plan 9 ticking for the past 25 years or more, is
that this community is small enough to keep connected to the "product"
in its more abstract sense. Whatever that sense is, it is what we
share and, presumably, appreciate, so we ought to preserve it, neh?

Lucio.

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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-10  3:27 Eli Cohen
2021-02-10  3:37 ` Lucio De Re
2021-02-10  3:47   ` Eli Cohen
2021-02-10  4:14     ` Lucio De Re
2021-02-10  7:24     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2021-02-10 16:15       ` ori
2021-02-10 21:50         ` Eli Cohen
2021-02-10 22:00           ` ori
2021-02-10 22:26             ` David du Colombier
2021-02-11  5:49               ` ori
2021-02-11  7:24                 ` Lucio De Re
2021-02-11  8:57                   ` Jens Staal
2021-02-11 10:31                   ` hiro
2021-02-11 11:57                     ` Lucio De Re [this message]
2021-02-11 13:07                       ` hiro
2021-02-11 17:41                       ` pouya+lists.9fans
2021-02-11  8:40                 ` David du Colombier
2021-02-12  1:21                   ` ori
2021-02-12  2:55                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2021-02-12 17:42                       ` ori
2021-02-12 17:48                         ` sirjofri
2021-02-12 18:09                           ` ori
2021-02-12 20:46                             ` Lucio De Re
2021-02-12 23:54                               ` Anthony Martin
2021-02-13 13:34                               ` hiro
2021-02-13 14:05                                 ` Lucio De Re
2021-02-13 15:30                                   ` hiro
2021-02-22 18:44                 ` David du Colombier
2021-02-23  4:45                   ` ori
2021-03-19 14:41                     ` Eli Cohen
2021-03-21  0:01                       ` kokamoto
2021-03-21  8:33                         ` David du Colombier
2021-03-21  9:46                           ` hiro
2021-03-21 11:07                             ` David du Colombier
2021-03-21 14:38                           ` David du Colombier
2021-03-21 13:02                         ` Ethan Gardener
2021-02-12 16:39           ` ori
2021-02-10 13:49 ` Steve Simon
2021-02-12 11:09   ` [9fans] 9pi provenance Richard Miller
2021-02-12 11:56     ` pouya+lists.9fans
2021-02-13 14:42       ` David du Colombier
2021-02-13 14:47         ` Richard Miller
2021-02-13 14:53           ` David du Colombier

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