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Thu, 11 Feb 2021 03:57:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a2e:b170:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Feb 2021 03:57:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7bd26df9-f2fb-448d-8be0-c23ebda89c56@www.fastmail.com> <155A44744BAB376330DD0F382387969A@eigenstate.org> From: Lucio De Re Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 13:57:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [9fans] patches from 9front To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 46e41bd2-6c60-11eb-82c2-d306fd420eb2 Archived-At: =?UTF-8?B?PGh0dHBzOi8vOWZhbnMudG9waWNib3guY29tL2dyb3Vwcy85?= =?UTF-8?B?ZmFucy9UYzgyOTM5ZjFmZGEwZTQ3OS1NMTYzODdiNTUzZDQyNjZlOGExOWNi?= =?UTF-8?B?Y2U3Pg==?= List-Help: List-Id: "9fans" <9fans.9fans.net> List-Post: List-Software: Topicbox v0 List-Subscribe: Precedence: list Reply-To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Unsubscribe: , Topicbox-Delivery-ID: 2:9fans:437d30aa-c441-11e9-8a57-d036212d11b0:522be890-2105-11eb-b15e-8d699134e1fa:M16387b553d4266e8a19cbce7:1:rM2bsf24tImoHr95vRbAdgmzPaeZytYN-9Mnzh7UVQ8 On 2/11/21, hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> wrote: >> I like >> to think that there is "One plan 9" struggling to be born from these >> variations. > > it there's any "One plan 9" it's clearly called golang. cause all > added syscalls to any of the distributions came from there... > Well, I'd love to catch up on how NetBSD coped with the Golang demands, their Foundation was, to the best of my knowledge, also run by "purists". That said, I presume the new syscalls could probably be tucked in the Go runtime. Or is it essential to match everything that Linux does? > if that incident had not happened i'd have now claimed: the one good > thing that comes out of multiple competing plan9 distributions is that > there's a stronger urge to stay backwards compatible, as that will > provide interoperability between all competitors in the long run. > I don't see why that should not remain an objective, although not an exclusive one. What I believe is that shrinking the base system is preferable to expanding it. I'm willing to sacrifice performance for simplicity, no matter what the public gets sold. > gladly the will to sync crucial changes regardless is strong enough, > so i guess it doesn't matter. > It does matter. The need to incorporate many bug fixes from Cinap has been obvious for a long time. 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