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From: Lucio De Re <lucio.dere@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 07:17:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJQ9t7isebhcXyiM0kCX8y-vU0V6=twv07wEw-0UW7r4Dm=rCA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0D1DE354-BD92-4969-9AC7-F6ABA745EA95@yingmi.cn>

My most current frustration (a bit off topic) is Skype's keystroke
echo latency, whatever the cause. I can't cope with it, yet I have to
use it for employment reasons.

It reminds me that upas with acme Mail is immeasurably faster at
reading and reacting to mail than the bloat I need to use as a mailer:
Thunderbird; and less buggy. Sadly, I could choose my mailer, in this
case, but mailman queue moderation in Plan 9 is just not viable unless
I code my own tool chest for that and I just have too many higher
priority tasks to do that. It nags me, just not enough.

So, why is my main workstation a Plan 9 one?

 I think the most significant reason may well be that a
top-of-the-line Apple laptop is way beyond my means; I rage against
Apple, yet I have seen too many people I respect switch to Apple and
even though I believe the reason is fashion rather than practicality,
I cannot stop the suspicion that the only barrier to me capitulating
too is my lack of funds.

So, that bit aside, a native Plan 9 environment is what I enjoy
developing small prototype tools (software tools), which is what I
mostly do for a living, in Go. Big screen, fast reaction on old
hardware, seamless compilations and testing and, best of all, platform
independence (also "it keeps me honest"). And Go has so many native
libraries, I can play with PostgreSQL or OpenLDAP and many other
foreign services without touching Linux for hours on end (no open
Windows, here, with really, really rare exceptions).

There is a middling list of improvements I would like, some needing
hard work (Go's Shiny), some in  the middle (proper SSH functionality,
native to Plan 9 - I haven't had a chance to mess with Go's options),
and some trivial (vmx is a recent discovery, I haven't had the time to
set up a working, integrated instance of 9front, upas or similar is
the pressing one).

But it all helps me keep my sanity and that makes up for a lot of shortcomings.

Lucio.

On 6/14/18, 刘宇宝 <liuyubao@yingmi.cn> wrote:
> Compared to "not for you", "don't care",  "intend to not be successful", I
> like more the topic of cat-v irc channel on freenode set by aiju:  "fun
> fact: you can use multiple operating systems at the same time".
>
> Certainly Plan 9 can't replace Linux/macOS/BSD/Windows, I'm still curious
> its upper bound for a sensible daily usage,  and the best practice from you
> happy experienced Plan 9 users.
>
> I checked mail headers in this mailing list, seems all use Apple Mail,
> iPhone Mail, WebMail with AJAX, Gmail(a lot), ProtonMail,  these emails went
> through Postfix and Exim servers, probably on Linux.
>
> In great harmony, we use kinds of operating system and kinds of software on
> them.
>
> Regards,
> Yubao Liu
>
>> On Jun 14, 2018, at 10:53 AM, N. S. Montanaro <nsm@airmail.cc> wrote:
>>
>> I think a lot of people discover Plan 9 and want it to be something it
>> isn’t, rather than stumble upon it out of necessity. As the FQA says,
>> “Plan 9 is not for you."
>
>


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-14  5:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-11  6:14 刘宇宝
2018-06-12 14:57 ` 刘宇宝
2018-06-14  2:53 ` N. S. Montanaro
2018-06-14  3:53   ` 刘宇宝
2018-06-14  5:17     ` Lucio De Re [this message]
2018-06-14 21:12       ` hiro
2018-06-15  0:57         ` 刘宇宝
2018-06-15  2:24           ` N. S. Montanaro
2018-06-15 11:44           ` hiro
2018-06-16 13:39     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2018-06-16 15:26       ` Jerome Ibanes
2018-06-21  9:06     ` Rui Carmo
2018-06-21  9:53       ` dexen deVries
     [not found]       ` <BJXPR01MB0277C36675F3F1EA52FC46EAD44B0@BJXPR01MB0277.CHNPR01.prod.partner.outlook.cn>
2018-06-26  3:24         ` 刘宇宝
2018-06-26  6:36           ` Tyga
2018-06-27 19:10             ` Ethan A. Gardener
2018-06-27 18:45           ` Ethan A. Gardener
2018-06-14  9:46 ` Tyga
2018-06-14 14:22   ` Steve Simon
2018-06-14 16:15     ` tlaronde
2018-06-14 17:23       ` hiro
2018-06-14 17:45     ` Daniel Camoles
2018-06-15  6:13       ` Mart Zirnask
2018-06-15 13:51         ` Lucio De Re
2018-06-15 14:26           ` hiro
2018-06-15 16:03             ` Mart Zirnask
2018-06-15 17:47             ` Lucio De Re
2018-06-15 19:02         ` Mark van Atten
2018-06-15 23:58           ` Iruatã Souza
2018-06-16  9:35             ` tlaronde
2018-06-18  8:35             ` Mark van Atten
2018-06-14 21:20   ` hiro
2018-06-20 21:35 ` Ethan A. Gardener
2018-06-21  3:58   ` Lucio De Re
2018-06-21  4:49     ` Bakul Shah
2018-06-21 16:02       ` Ethan A. Gardener
2018-06-21 15:23     ` Ethan A. Gardener
2018-06-21 18:03       ` Bakul Shah
2018-06-25  9:33         ` Ethan A. Gardener
2018-06-26  5:17           ` 刘宇宝
2018-06-27 19:01             ` Ethan A. Gardener
2018-06-26 21:03           ` Bakul Shah
2018-06-21  5:39   ` Kurt H Maier
2018-06-21 16:39     ` Ethan A. Gardener
2018-06-21 20:18     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2018-06-28  9:57       ` Richard Miller
2018-06-27  5:18     ` Iruatã Souza
2018-06-28  2:04       ` Tyga
2018-06-21  7:20   ` Mart Zirnask
2018-06-21 15:11     ` Ethan A. Gardener
2018-06-24  8:22       ` 刘宇宝
2018-06-15  8:16 cinap_lenrek
     [not found] <1740027127.295380.1529081094082.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2018-06-15 16:44 ` Brian L. Stuart
2018-06-15 18:16   ` Mark van Atten
     [not found] <1401313358.335074.1529087916083.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2018-06-15 18:38 ` Brian L. Stuart
     [not found] <135406475.3232013.1530116414782.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2018-06-27 16:20 ` Brian L. Stuart
2018-06-28  2:06   ` Tyga
2018-06-28  7:22     ` Mart Zirnask
2018-06-28 18:47       ` Bakul Shah

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