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To: 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: 51772086-4703-11ea-b3c5-a90319d2b1aa On 2/3/20, cinap_lenrek@felloff.net wrote: > this was a huge mistake. in plan9 we are lucky not to > be affected by this too much and we can handle these > things without much pain and without touching every > program. > I am not challenging the lucky break Bell Labs got with the use of exclamation marks, although the use of Bash (an unfortunate shell if ever there was only one!) makes you regret that decision. And if you ever work in support, someone else's configuration of Bash is seldom something you can escape from. > dialstrings also let you pick the protocol and also the > ip stack to use. programs that do not accept dialstrings > sabotage a usefull plan9 capability and break consistency. > It is a wonderful thing for a Plan 9 user to be able to ignore the reality of Linux desktops, as much as it is wonderful for Linux users to be spared the Windows World. But I wonder how many of the people here live in that reality? > i'm pretty sure the original plan9 ssh1/ssh2 also accept > dial strings just fine. > And so it should, may it rest in peace. As I said, I am not challenging the Plan 9 lucky break at all. As far as 9front cmd/ssh.c goes and Ori's git9/proto.c goes, both worlds seem to coexist happily, just as the two workstations coexist on my desk. There is an ambiguity in git9, I need to examine it in more detail. If somebody can show that I have broken something irreparably, I take it all back, if not, what we need is a little bit of additional information in the man pages. I haven't had the time to organise any of that, unfortunately. Hopefully, over the next weekend I shall. Lucio.