Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

[Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>]

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Hey. This has gone beyond useless and abusive. Go away. This list is not
for your spleen venting.

And... I found v10 (it was never lost).

brucee


On 7 September 2013 23:56, Aram Hăvărneanu <aram.h@mgk.ro> wrote:

> > we got not a single cent for nix. As far as lsub is concerned,
> > it's been a free time effort.
>
> You are seriously misrepresenting nix and/or yourself.
>
> From http://lsub.org:
>   "Nix is joint work of Laboratorio de Sistemas with Bell Laboratories,
>   Sandia National Labs, and Vitanuova."
>
> Lsub is part of GSyC which is an academic institution funded with
> public money. Sandia National Labs is funded by the DOE. People are
> getting paid to work on nix. This is not "Nemo and his friends hack
> on Plan 9" project. It that would be the case, using the lsub name
> everywhere would constitute grave academic misconduct. You publish
> papers with lsub credentials.
>
> My personal projects are not my employers (in fact some people place
> huge disclaimers stating that; I find the practice silly). Nix is
> not a personal project. It's listed right there on the lsub page
> along with other Plan 9-related project. Some of them even list
> their grants:
>
>   "Finnancial support, in part, by Spanish MCYT TIN2010-17344 and
>   Madrid CAM S-2009/TIC-1692."
>
>   "This work is supported in part by grants CAM CLOUDS S2009/TIC-1692
>   and MCyTTIN-2007-67353-C02-02"
>
> You are paid by your university to work on Plan 9-related projects.
> It's part of your everyday job.
>
> Let's take a look at other misinformation:
>
> > Today it continues using a public development process, as described
> > above.
>
> It does not. It's done in secret. It wasn't always done like this.
> For a short while, development was public. It stopped being public
> when you (nemo) and Ron fighted and couldn't find common ground.
> Then you took the toys and locked them in your fortress.
>
> > there is no private nix development going on
>
> Let's quote something from a recent nix paper:
>
>   "We are grateful to Charles Forsyth for his advice regarding this
>   work, and to the new Plan 9 secret society."
>
> Ahem.
>
> --
> Aram Hăvărneanu
>
>

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