From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20130905230735.Horde.uX0zjY3pqclxqj9wO4Uw-Q1@ssl.eumx.net> <1a806fac73b7f5d77492e855f816fca4@quintile.net> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 14:36:15 +1000 Message-ID: From: Bruce Ellis To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c25bb80969e004e5c3b276 Subject: Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult Topicbox-Message-UUID: 7b7fcebe-ead8-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a11c25bb80969e004e5c3b276 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I don't really understand this thread. I thought it was a stupid flame war, in which case I can only say that I miss Boyd calling a spade a fucking shovel. I was disturbed by the claim that v10 had been lost because of bullshit, but said nothing. If indeed someone has lost their v10 I can replace it. If you are in australia it's easy. Contact me with the details of your import license and I will arrange for a copy on TK50 for you. I'm not allowed to export/sell/destroy it so I'm stuck with it. Nearly all of cmd is on the web anyway! And a complete rack of plan9 servers is a lot quieter, faster, and uses lest power than my Vax. But I digress, voting nemo Plan9 innovator of the month. Shoot me. brucee On 7 September 2013 14:06, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > 2013/9/6 erik quanstrom : > >> > I created it I do what I want with it. > >> > >> I believe the rules are different when the work is research, sponsored > >> by public money. People are getting research grants to work on nix. > > > > who is getting grants to work on nix? > > > >> > as far as i know, there is no private nix development going on > >> > >> Who are you kidding. This is the norm around here. I have been > >> personally invited in multiple private Plan 9-related projects by some > >> of the few proemiment members of this community that still write code. > >> This has always been the norm; read 15 year old 9fans posts and find > >> that the same attitude (and complaints) prevail. > > > > i'm not sure if you're complaining or bragging. > > > > but anyway, we're talking about current nix (which i take to mean > > current 64-bit intel/amd development of any sort). > > > > so have you been invited to participate in private nix development? > > I've been invited. I'm too busy, and I feel like a dick, because I > think it'd be a lot of fun. I'm happy that people are contributing. > > But I do wish that this list and the software produced by the people > on it was more transparent. I'm sure nobody likes bitbucket or github > here, but I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy with a 9p mount of > ongoing development. It's amazing what commented changesets do for > software engineering in organizations (public or private) to quell > worries about those projects. > > --dho > > > - erik > > > > --001a11c25bb80969e004e5c3b276 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't really understand this thread. I thought it wa= s a stupid flame war, in which case I can only say that I miss Boyd calling= a spade a fucking shovel.

I was disturbed by the claim = that v10 had been lost because of bullshit, but said nothing.

If indeed someone has lost their v10 I can replace it. = If you are in australia it's easy. Contact me with the details of your = import license and I will arrange for a copy on TK50 for you. I'm not a= llowed to export/sell/destroy it so I'm stuck with it. Nearly all of cm= d is on the web anyway!

And a complete rack of plan9 servers is a lot quieter, = faster, and uses lest power than my Vax.

But I dig= ress, voting nemo Plan9 innovator of the month. Shoot me.

brucee


On 7 September 2013 14:06, Devon H. O'Dell <dev= on.odell@gmail.com> wrote:
2013/9/6 erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>:
>> > I created it I do what I want with it.=
>>
>> I believe the rules are different when the work is research, spons= ored
>> by public money. People are getting research grants to work on nix= .
>
> who is getting grants to work on nix?
>
>> > as far as i know, there is no private nix development going o= n
>>
>> Who are you kidding. This is the norm around here. I have been
>> personally invited in multiple private Plan 9-related projects by = some
>> of the few proemiment members of this community that still write c= ode.
>> This has always been the norm; read 15 year old 9fans posts and fi= nd
>> that the same attitude (and complaints) prevail.
>
> i'm not sure if you're complaining or bragging.
>
> but anyway, we're talking about current nix (which i take to mean<= br> > current 64-bit intel/amd development of any sort).
>
> so have you been invited to participate in private nix development?
I've been invited. I'm too busy, and I feel like a dick= , because I
think it'd be a lot of fun. I'm happy that people are contributing.=

But I do wish that this list and the software produced by the people
on it was more transparent. I'm sure nobody likes bitbucket or github here, but I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy with a 9p mount of ongoing development. It's amazing what commented changesets do for
software engineering in organizations (public or private) to quell
worries about those projects.

--dho

> - erik
>


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