From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Prof Brucee Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 13:44:00 +1000 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1142958ab4ec66054e825986 Subject: [9fans] Postscript and troff Topicbox-Message-UUID: bb8cd4c4-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a1142958ab4ec66054e825986 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Any advice on including postscript in a troff document? brucee --001a1142958ab4ec66054e825986 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Any advice on including postscript in a troff document?

brucee
--001a1142958ab4ec66054e825986-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Bruce Ellis Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 18:59:49 +1000 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11444dfa2a53d0054e86c3e5 Subject: Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff Topicbox-Message-UUID: bb90e32a-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a11444dfa2a53d0054e86c3e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)? brucee On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee wrote: > Any advice on including postscript in a troff document? > > brucee > --001a11444dfa2a53d0054e86c3e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default= )?

brucee

On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee <prof.bruce= e@gmail.com> wrote:
Any advice on including postscript in a troff document?

brucee

--001a11444dfa2a53d0054e86c3e5-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Steve Simon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-63BF0E8D-5F1B-4010-8D8A-B860E9F0F4E9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 10:29:57 +0100 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff Topicbox-Message-UUID: bb94cf80-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --Apple-Mail-63BF0E8D-5F1B-4010-8D8A-B860E9F0F4E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If it's a diagram i would use the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a grou= p of pages, then i am at a loss, sorry. http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/6/mpictures -Steve > On 2 May 2017, at 09:59, Bruce Ellis wrote: >=20 > Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)? >=20 > brucee >=20 >> On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee wrote: >> Any advice on including postscript in a troff document? >>=20 >> brucee >=20 --Apple-Mail-63BF0E8D-5F1B-4010-8D8A-B860E9F0F4E9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If it's a di= agram i would use the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a group of pages, t= hen i am at a loss, sorry.

http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/6/mpictures

-Steve


On 2 May 2017, at 0= 9:59, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@g= mail.com> wrote:

Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)?

brucee

On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee <prof.brucee@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Any advic= e on including postscript in a troff document?

brucee
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= --Apple-Mail-63BF0E8D-5F1B-4010-8D8A-B860E9F0F4E9-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Bruce Ellis Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 19:37:37 +1000 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114ccf38570d59054e874a1a Subject: Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff Topicbox-Message-UUID: bba0f094-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a114ccf38570d59054e874a1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Specifically html. brucee On 2 May 2017 at 19:29, Steve Simon wrote: > > If it's a diagram i would use the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a > group of pages, then i am at a loss, sorry. > > http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/6/mpictures > > -Steve > > > On 2 May 2017, at 09:59, Bruce Ellis wrote: > > Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)? > > brucee > > On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee wrote: > >> Any advice on including postscript in a troff document? >> >> brucee >> > > --001a114ccf38570d59054e874a1a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Specifically html.

brucee

On 2 May 2017 at 19= :29, Steve Simon <steve@quintile.net> wrote:

If it&= #39;s a diagram i would use the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a group= of pages, then i am at a loss, sorry.


-Steve


On 2 May 2017, at 09:59, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:


--001a114ccf38570d59054e874a1a-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Bruce Ellis Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114ccf38a6d86c054ec01729 Subject: Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff Topicbox-Message-UUID: bbc5bcbc-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --001a114ccf38a6d86c054ec01729 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good solution". There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files. For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to postprocess troff output. brucee On 2 May 2017 at 19:37, Bruce Ellis wrote: > Specifically html. > > brucee > > On 2 May 2017 at 19:29, Steve Simon wrote: > >> >> If it's a diagram i would use the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a >> group of pages, then i am at a loss, sorry. >> >> http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/6/mpictures >> >> -Steve >> >> >> On 2 May 2017, at 09:59, Bruce Ellis wrote: >> >> Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)? >> >> brucee >> >> On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee wrote: >> >>> Any advice on including postscript in a troff document? >>> >>> brucee >>> >> >> > --001a114ccf38a6d86c054ec01729 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "th= ere is no good solution".

There is the PSPIC macro = in groff, but it generates huge files.

For the lat= est book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to postprocess tro= ff output.

brucee

On 2 May 2017 at 19:37, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
Specifically html.

brucee
<= /div>
On 2 May 2017 at 19:29, Steve Simon <steve@= quintile.net> wrote:

If it's a diagram i would us= e the mpictures macros on plan9. if it is a group of pages, then i am at a = loss, sorry.


-Steve


On 2 May 2017, at 09:59, Bruc= e Ellis <bruc= e.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:

Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (defau= lt)?

brucee

On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee <prof.bru= cee@gmail.com> wrote:
Any advice on including postscript in a troff document?

brucee



--001a114ccf38a6d86c054ec01729-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000." References: Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 22:28:38 -0700 From: Bakul Shah Message-Id: <20170505052838.910CE124AEC4@mail.bitblocks.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff Topicbox-Message-UUID: bbc9b8b2-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 This is an opportunity for someone to implement troff macros in TeX. Then you can embed EPS easily! :-) On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis wrote: > > I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good > solution". > > There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files. > > For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to > postprocess troff output. > > brucee From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170505052838.910CE124AEC4@mail.bitblocks.com> References: <20170505052838.910CE124AEC4@mail.bitblocks.com> From: Bruce Ellis Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 15:32:42 +1000 Message-ID: To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f40304388ab8fa8ea5054ec03728 Subject: Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff Topicbox-Message-UUID: bbcde9fa-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 --f40304388ab8fa8ea5054ec03728 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 bwk mentioned that TeX was unworkable for this situation. Maybe it's time for another good TeX hack. :-) brucee On 5 May 2017 at 15:28, Bakul Shah wrote: > This is an opportunity for someone to implement troff macros in TeX. > Then you can embed EPS easily! > > :-) > > On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis > wrote: > > > > I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good > > solution". > > > > There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files. > > > > For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to > > postprocess troff output. > > > > brucee > > --f40304388ab8fa8ea5054ec03728 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
bwk mentioned that TeX was unworkable for this situation. = Maybe it's time for another good TeX hack.

:-) bruce= e

On 5= May 2017 at 15:28, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com> wrote= :
This is an opportunity for someone to i= mplement troff macros in TeX.
Then you can embed EPS easily!

:-)

On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no go= od
> solution".
>
> There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files.
>
> For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to=
> postprocess troff output.
>
> brucee


--f40304388ab8fa8ea5054ec03728-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 May 2017 15:32:42 +1000." References: <20170505052838.910CE124AEC4@mail.bitblocks.com> Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 22:41:57 -0700 From: Bakul Shah Message-Id: <20170505054157.C0716124AEA4@mail.bitblocks.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff Topicbox-Message-UUID: bbd1d9b6-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 https://bima.astro.umd.edu/nemo/man_html/tr2latex.l.html No idea how good it is though. On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:32:42 +1000 Bruce Ellis wrote: > > bwk mentioned that TeX was unworkable for this situation. Maybe it's time > for another good TeX hack. > > :-) brucee > > On 5 May 2017 at 15:28, Bakul Shah wrote: > > > This is an opportunity for someone to implement troff macros in TeX. > > Then you can embed EPS easily! > > > > :-) > > > > On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis > > wrote: > > > > > > I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good > > > solution". > > > > > > There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files. > > > > > > For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to > > > postprocess troff output. > > > > > > brucee From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 May 2017 22:41:57 PDT." <20170505054157.C0716124AEA4@mail.bitblocks.com> References: <20170505052838.910CE124AEC4@mail.bitblocks.com> <20170505054157.C0716124AEA4@mail.bitblocks.com> Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 22:53:08 -0700 From: Bakul Shah Message-Id: <20170505055308.CD5CC124AF25@mail.bitblocks.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff Topicbox-Message-UUID: bbd64956-ead9-11e9-9d60-3106f5b1d025 Via http://ftp.cs.stanford.edu/tex/texhax/texhax89.088 So only for -ms or -man. bwk's way may be better for your purpose. +---- | Date: Fri, 22 Sep 89 12:30:59 PDT | From: Phil Farrell | Subject: Re: TeX, troff, man pages | Keywords: TeX, troff, man pages | | In TeXhax vol 89, issue 85, William LeFebvre says: | > I've often thought of implementing the troff man macros in TeX. If | > that were done, then one could just TeX-off the printed form whenever | > desired but still have "nroff -man" for the man command. So what's | > needed? First, we need to define "(newline)." as the equivalent of an | > escape character. Any takers? | | There is another existing way to do this. The UNIX TeX distribution includes | a contributed program tr2tex from a former student here at Stanford that | can convert troff manuscripts that use either -ms or -man macros to LaTeX | documents. It doesn't do a perfect job for complicated troff constructions, | but the simple macros normally used in man pages come through just fine. | | This isn't the real answer for replacing troff with TeX on UNIX systems | because it still requires that you keep nroff around and it still requires | that you know the -man macros for writing man pages. What I think is | needed is a combination of a LaTeX style option that forces the output | to use a constant-width font and constant line spacing, etc; plus a | dvi interpreter that can reproduce such a restricted output on a normal | terminal screen. For the fairly simple documents that are used as on-line | documentation (no math and only simple tables that can be done with tabs) | this would allow regular typesetting via LaTeX for printed copies, but | also permit viewing on a normal dumb terminal by including the special | style option and processing through the special dvi interpreter. I am | afraid, however, that this would be a rather large project to undertake | and unfortunately can never imagine having the time to do it myself. | | Phil Farrell, Computer Systems Manager | Stanford University School of Earth Sciences | farrell@erebus.stanford.edu +---- On Thu, 04 May 2017 22:41:57 PDT Bakul Shah wrote: > https://bima.astro.umd.edu/nemo/man_html/tr2latex.l.html > > No idea how good it is though. > > On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:32:42 +1000 Bruce Ellis wrote: > > > > bwk mentioned that TeX was unworkable for this situation. Maybe it's time > > for another good TeX hack. > > > > :-) brucee > > > > On 5 May 2017 at 15:28, Bakul Shah wrote: > > > > > This is an opportunity for someone to implement troff macros in TeX. > > > Then you can embed EPS easily! > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good > > > > solution". > > > > > > > > There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files. > > > > > > > > For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to > > > > postprocess troff output. > > > > > > > > brucee >